1870 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 25 July, PO Jasper, page 111 (scan 55), Hse/Fam #863 Forester William 51 M W Farmer $200 Real Estate $200 Personal born S Carolina [b abt 1839] Forester Zenith 43 F W Keeping House born S Carolina [b abt 1827] Cannot read or write Forester Louisa 3 F W born Georgia [b abt 1867] 1880 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 12 June, Jerusalem, District 163, page 19B, Hse/Family #165 Forrester, William W M 61 Farmer SC NC SC Forrester Forrester, Zenith W F 51 Wife Keeping House SC SC SC Forrester, Louisa L W F 15 Dau Work on Farm GA SC SC Louisa may be the same daughter known as Amanda or Mandy, who married Robert Smith. Amanda's death certificate says her parents were Bill Forrester and Zenas Barnes, which appears to be the same Bill and Zenith. But we have accounted for all their children and no Mandy or similar occurs in the pertinent census records. The daughter matching Louisa in later records is referred to by the names Mandy, Manda or Amanda. Amanda married Robert Smith. Terri Smith Escamillo and I have worked together to confirm Amanda's identity. Terri has probed it extensively. We have eliminated other possibilities Terri concludes that Louisa is the same as Mandy. This seems to account for the information we have. Amanda Forrester married Robert Smith, and they are found in Tennessee in 1900 and in Oklahoma by 19120. Amanda Forrester Smith died in Pauls Valley, Oklahoma, in 1940. Her death certificate reports that her parents were Bill and Zenis Forrester, seeming to refer to our William and Zenith. Terri discusses Amanda Forrester Smith and her family. "Manda Forrester Smith and Robert Smith are my great grandparents and their son Martin Lee Arthur Van Buren is my grandfather that I didn't know. Robert and Mart were born in Georgia and my dad Leman Smith was born in Henryetta, Oklahoma, but my mother divorced him when I was 9 years old. My dad joined the Navy when he was 17 and was in California where he met my mom in Cupertino, California and married the same year. I was born in San Jose and lived most of my life in Santa Clara County until 6 years ago when my husband and I moved to Petaluma in Northern California, but both sides of my family are from Georgia, South Carolina, Oklahoma and Missouri." -- Terri Escamillo, email to Orville Boyd Jenkins, 28 February 2011 We have found no single record or reference that contains the both the names Louisa and Amanda. Other facts fit pretty well to provided a full-life picture of Louisa Amanda. The first record I found under the name Amanda is the 1900 census where she and her husband Robert Smith are living in James County, Tennessee, before they moved to Oklahoma, where they were enumerated in 1910. 1900 Federal Census, James County, Tennessee, 5 June, Civil District 7, Enumeration District 77, page 3B, Hse #53, Fam #56 Smith, Robert Head W M May 1858 42 Married 18 yrs GA GA GA Log Driver Rents Smith, Amanda Wife W F Oct 1866 33 Married 18 yrs 13 children/9 living GA NC NC Smith, William Son W M Oct 1883 16 Single GA GA GA Smith, James A Son W M Sept 1885 14 Single TX GA GA Smith, Carter Son W M Dec 1886 13 Single GA GA GA Smith, John D Son W M May 1889 11 Single GA GA GA Smith, Epheham Son W M Oct 1890 9 Single GA GA GA Smith, Mart Son W M Jan 1893 3 Single GA GA GA Smith, Florance A Dau W M Apr 1895 5 Single GA GA GA Smith, Harvy Son W M Jan 1897 4 Single GA GA GA Smith, Zack Son W M Jan 1899 1 Single GA GA GA James is reported born in Texas. This means they moved from Georgia to Texas between October 1883 and December 1885. Then after James' birth, they were not in Texas a whole year, before they moved back to Georgia, where Carter was born in December 1886. I wonder why they would make such a major move, then come right back after such a short time. "William Chandler "Mink" Smith b-14 Oct 1883 GA d-16 Jul 1973 Denton, Denton, TX and married to Ella May Walkins b-19 Aug 1889 Talking Rock, Pickens, GA d-07 Nov 1983 Aubrey, Denton, TX. Mink and Ella are buried in Belew Historic Cemetery in Aubry, Denton, TX. Kizzie Olivia Mosier b-05 Feb 1887 Berryville, Carroll, AK d- 27 Feb 1972 Pauls Valley, Garvin OK was married to Mink's brother James William "Raspberry" (Berry) Smith b-13 Jul 1884 Tyler, TX d-08 Feb 1970 Pauls Valley, Garvin, OK" -- Terri Reneé Smith Escamillo, Comments on a Smith Family Photo, Ancestry 2016, https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/80054212/person/34409984806/media/089fa55d-4c41-4855-a379-5efa38681866?_phsrc=DzJ746&usePUBJs=true All the other children were born in Georgia. Thus they moved into Tennessee about a year or so before this census. Before long, though, they were back out west. 1910 Federal Census, Pontotoc County, Oklahoma, 9 April, Francis Township, District 256, page 14A, Hse #218, Fam #254 Smith, Robert Head M W 52 Married 30 years GA GA GA Farming Rents Smith, Manda Wife F W 43 Married 30 years 17 children/13 living GA GA GA Smith, Berry Son M W 24 Single TX GA GA Farmer Smith, David Son M W 19 Single GA GA GA Farm Helper Smith, Mart Son M W 17 Single GA GA GA Farm Helper Smith, Harve Son M W 14 Single GA GA GA Farm Helper Smith, Florence Dau F W 16 Single GA GA GA Smith, Zachariah Son M W 13 Single GA GA GA Farm Helper Smith, Enoch Son M W 7 Single GA GA GA Smith, Eddie Son M W 5 Single GA GA GA Smith, Robert Son M W 2 Single GA GA GA In age, David here matches John D of 1900. There is a discrepancy in age and reported birth date in 1900 compared to the age in 1910. Birthdays are not very reliable in the 1900 census. Family sources identify this child as John David, known as Dave, also called D W for some reason. Epheham, whose age reports overlap with Dave in these reports, is reported with separate details. Epheham died and was buried in Ada, while Dave died in Pauls Valley and is buried in Mt Olivet Cemetery. Berry matches James A because there is only one child born in Texas. All other children were born in Georgia, except Robert, who was born after they moved to Oklahoma. The age of Robert indicates they moved there after the creation of the State of Oklahoma in December 1907. It is not clear from this evidence whether the initial A was an error or Berry is a nickname. Berry is often a proper given name, but is also sometimes a nickname for the popular name Greenberry. The middle initial in James' 1920 census record fits with the given name William. But William was listed as well as James in 1900, and two years older than James. At least one genealogy has James William Raspberry as one child, combining the two children William and James of the 1900 census. This does not seem possible, since William and James were enumerated as two separate children in 1900, with different ages. Some other genealogies do have Berry as William's middle name. Berry matches James here. No further clarification has been found on the names. This also matches later censuses where the wife of James is named Kizzia (or Kizzie) and her husband is sometimes reported as Berry. -------------------------- Another note about Amanda Forrester Smith on the 1910 census she states she gave birth to 17 children with 13 living, however, all the info I have obtained. I can only identify 12 children: William Chandler "Mink" 1883-1973 James William "Berry" 1884-1970 Carter Lee "Seal" 1886-1957 John David "Dave" 1889-1955 Ephram 1890-1969 Martin "Mart" Lou Arthur Van Buren Smith 1893-1972 Joe Harve "Harvey" 1895-1975 Flossie Annie 1898-1974 Zachary 1899-1986 Enoch 1902-1974 Edward Edgar "Eddie" 1905-1990 Robert Lee "Robb" 1908-1989 No one seems to know the names or where buried of the other 4 children. -- Terri Escamillo, Ancestry messaging to Orville Boyd Jenkins, 16 September 2019 -------------------------- In the 1920 census, Robert is named Robert B instead of Robert L. This time they are in neighboring Garvin County. In the 1930 census, they are back in a Pontotoc County locale. 1920 Federal Census, Garvin County, Oklahoma, 7 February, Brady Township, District 21, page 2A, West Township Line, Hse #23, Fam #24 Smith, Robt B Head Rents M W 65 GA GA GA Cotton Farmer Smith, Mandy Wife F W 57 GA GA GA Cotton Picker Smith, Dave Son M W 29 GA GA GA Farm Laborer Smith, Harve V Son M W 20 GA GA GA Farm Laborer Smith, Florence Dau F W 21 GA GA GA Farm Laborer Smith, Enoch Son M W 17 GA GA GA Farm Laborer Smith, Edward Son M W 16 GA GA GA Farm Laborer Smith, Robert Son M W 14 GA GA GA Farm Laborer - Fam #25 - Smith, Charter Head M W 33 GA GA GA Farm Laborer Smith, Rosetta Wife F W 22 GA GA GA Farm Laborer Smith, Dewey Lee Son M W 2yrs5mos GA GA GA Smith, David E Son M W 4mos GA GA GA 1930 Federal Census, Pontotoc County, Oklahoma, 4 April, Maxwell Township, District 24, page 2A, Hse/Fam #216 Smith, Dave Son M W 40 Single GA GA GA Farm Laborer Smith, Florence Dau F W 37 Single GA GA GA Smith, Harve Son M W 35 Single GA GA GA Farm Laborer Smith, Edgar Son M W 26 Single GA GA GA Farm Laborer Smith, Robert Jr Son M W 23 Single GA GA GA Farm Laborer Smith, Manda Sister F W 66 Single GA GA GA Manda's husband Robert Lee died in 1939. In 1940, Dave is enumerated as the Head of the household, with his widowed mother and two siblings in the home, and their Aunt Mandy, Robert Lee Smith's sister. 1940 Federal Census, Garvin County, Oklahoma, 19 April, Stratford, District: 25-22, page 10A, Hse#161, Rent $5 Smith, Dave W Head M W 51 Single Grade 1 born Georgia Same House in 1935 Farmer Smith, Florence Sister F W 44 Single Grade 3 born Georgia Same House in 1935 Smith, Harve Brother M W 42 Single Grade 3 born Georgia Same House in 1935 Farmer Smith, Mandia Mother F W 77 Widow Grade 0 born Georgia Same House in 1935 Smith, Mandy Aunt F W 78 Single Grade 0 born Alabama Same House in 1935 Amanda Forrester Smith died in Pauls Valley, Oklahoma, in 1940. In the 1940 census, Manda was a widow in the home with several of her children, with her son Dave Smith reported as the head of the household. Forms of the names of William and Zenith Barnes Forrester are reported as Amanda's parents, by her son Dave (under the name D W Smith), the informant on Amanda's death certificate. Louisa Amanda Forrester Birth 10/20/1866 in Georgia Death 9/16/1940 in Stratford, Garvin, Oklahoma Parents: William M Forrester 1819 - 1894 Zenith Barnes 1826 - 1907 Spouse: Robert Lee "Bob" Smith Birth abt 1852 in Culloden, Monroe, Georgia, Death April 21, 1939 in Brady, Garvin, Oklahoma -- Smith, http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/30103154/person/12241566604 This genealogy also has a note stating: "Robert is buried in Mount Olivet Cemetery in Pauls Valley, Ok in Section 1 lot 6 block 44 space 1." No burial memorial has been found for either Robert or Amanda on Find a Grave. Louisa Amanda Forrester Birth 10/20/1866 Georgia Death 9/16/1940 Pauls Valley, Garvin, Oklahoma Burial 1940 Mt Olivet Cemetery, Pauls Valley, Garvin, Oklahoma, section 1; block 6; lot 44; space Parents: William M Forrester 1819-1894 Zenith Barnes 1829-1907 Spouse Robert Lee "Bob" Smith Birth 5/1858 Culloden, Monroe, Georgia Death 4/21/1939 Pauls Valley, Garvin, Oklahoma Burial 4/21/1939 Mt Olivet Cemetery, Pauls Valley, Garvin, Oklahoma, section 1; block 6; lot 44; space 1 -- Phelps Family Tree, http://person.ancestry.com/tree/10946636/person/860061039/facts
"My grandmother always had said that there was Cherokee Indian in her line. We have never been able to prove that. However as I research the Franklin line I hear many references to that same mystery. Easom and Luvina Forrester are parents of Esom Franklin (1817) who married Susan Collier. Their daughter Mariah Franklin (1850) married John Baptiste Dorway who is my Great Grandfather. My grandmother Violet Dorway was the one who always told us that she was part Cherokee." -- "tlm002200," Ancestry Discussion Group, 08 January 2011
1870 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 25 July, PO Jasper, page 111 (scan 55), Hse/Fam #863 Forester William 51 M W Farmer $200 Real Estate $200 Personal born S Carolina [b abt 1839] Forester Zenith 43 F W Keeping House born S Carolina [b abt 1827] Cannot read or write Forester Martha M 8 F W At Home born Georgia [b abt 1862] 1880 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 12 June, Jerusalem, District 163, page 19B, Hse/Family #165 Forrester, William W M 61 Farmer SC NC SC Forrester Forrester, Zenith W F 51 Wife Keeping House SC SC SC Forrester, Martha M W F 17 Dau House Keeping GA SC SC Terri Smith, a great-granddaughter of Manda, shared these bits of information in some exchanges with me. Terri has developed a genealogy focusing on the Forrester line. Originally Terri and some other researchers understood Martha's middle name and main name to be Manda. Terri's great grandmother is named Amanda Forrester, and some genealogies report this Amanda as a child of William Forrester and Zenith Barnes Forrester. Amanda's Oklahoma death certificate reports that her parents were Bill Forrester and Zenis Barnes, which certainly sounds like our William and Zenith. However, no Amanda ever appears with William and Zenith in censuses. Her original comments reflected this: "Manda Forrester is my great grandmother and we believe her full name to be Martha Manda Forester married to Robert Smith. Her parents are William Forrester and Zenith Barnes of South Carolina. An early census says Zenith had 7 children, but only 6 living as Thalia Ann, Mary Adalina, Martha Manda, Joseph N, and Louisa N [and Nancy M]. The birth dates for Manda vary from 1861 to 1866 on the censuses. Any idea who the 7th is and it appears they died young and Martha Manda's real birth date I have a tree on ancestry.com Smith, McClellan, Findley etc that searched the Forresters quite a way back starting with William b-1819." -- Terri Smith Escamillo, personal message on genealogy site Our Family Tree, 27 February 2011 I determined that Martha was not Amanda. Terri later changed her view as well and information seemed to build to the conclusion that Amanda was the daughter known in early records as Louisa. Some genealogies have merged Amanda and Martha, taking Martha's middle initial M as the name Manda for Amanda. This is not possible, however, due to census records establishing Amanda and Martha as two separate individuals. Martha is still single and living with her mother in the 1900 census, while Amanda is found in James County, Tennessee, with her husband Robert Smith. They later moved to Indian Territory. Manda is honored on a gravestone with the names of several of her family members, including her sister Martha, named a Meall on the stone. The 1900 census reports that Martha's mother Zenith has borne 7 children, but only 5 are accounted for in the census reports of 1860-1880. Only 4 children are reported as still living in 1900, which accounts for the 3 in the 1880 census and Nancy in the 1870 census. With these accounting for the 4 reported as living, the others must have died before 1900. When enumerated for the 1900 census, Martha was still single and living with her widowed mother. Martha's father William died in 1894. Living in the household is also a boarder, whose name appears to be spelled Winnie Findly (Findley or Finley). I have not found Martha after 1900. 1900 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 9 June, Jerusalem Township, District 108, page 5B, Hse #86, Fam #89 Forrester, Zenith Head W M May 1824 76 Widow 7 children/4 living SC SC SC Farmer Owns Forrester, Martha Dau W M July 1861 38 Single GA GA SC Findly, Winnie Boarder W F Dec 1812 87 Widow 14 children/12 living SC SC SC Terri Escamillo obtained and shared with me a copy of Martha's death certificate, which gives her name as Mill Foster. The parents' names match, though the last name is Foster instead of Forrester. Terri provides other information from her research and family sources. ------------------------ Zenith did have 7 children according to the census as follows: Thalia Ann, Mary Adeline, Harriet J. (died as a child), Nancy M, Martha Mealle (never married and is buried with sister "Mandy Smith", Joseph N, and Louisa Amanda "Mandy." Mandy was born between 1865-1867 and died 1940 Paul's Valley, OK. -- Terry Escamillo, note on genealogy Our Family Tree, http://www.ourfamtree.org/browse.cfm?pid=60465 ------------------------ It appears Martha is the person named simply as Meall on the joint tombstone with her sister Amanda (Louisa) Smith, with several other members of Amanda's Smith family. On the grave her name is Meall, with no further last name. The single gravestone has several family names on it, as a single grave. But the only surname is Smith across the top, making it appear that all names were members of the Smith family. She is reported on her death documents simply as Mill Foster [instead of Forrester]. Mill was never married. The cause of death was uremic poison[ing], which is the result of kidney failure. Concerning burial, Mill's death certificate says burial was in Pauls Valley. The Funeral Register, which has the same information as the death certificate, states further that burial was in the Mt Olivet Cemetery of Pauls Valley. But her name does not appear, either under Forrester or Foster, in the Mt Olivet register compiled by the Oklahoma GenWeb Project. -- Mt Olivet http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/mtolivet/olivetfsurnames.htm Her death certificate has her name as Mill Foster, and Mill's parents as Bill Foster and Zenas Barns [sic]. This matches Martha, whose full name Terri Escamillo says is Martha Mealle Forester. Martha (Mill) never married. Mill died in or near Pauls Valley. The death certificate says she lived east of town. Oklahoma Certificate of Death Mill Foster [Mealle Forrester] Single, White Female Age 63, Born Georgia, No birth date reported Occupation Housework Death 25 February 1926 Paul's Valley, Garvin, Oklahoma Cause of Death Uremic Poison Physician E E Norvell, Wynnewood Father Bill Foster [Forrester] born Georgia Mother Zenas Barns born Georgia Burial Pauls Valley, by Williamson Funeral Company Filed 18 March 1926 Funeral Register, Williamson Funeral Home Remains of Mill Foster, Single Residence east of Pauls Valley Father's Name Bill Foster, born Georgia Mother's Name Zenas Barnes, born Georgia Date of Death 2/26/26, age 63 years Date of Funeral 2/26/26 [Death certificate reports death was 25 Feb and funeral 26 Feb] Place of Death east of Pauls Valley Occupation House Work Cause of Death Uremic Poison Physician E E Norvell, Wynnewood Charged to D W Smith [Her attending physician, according to the death certificate] Paid Interment Mt Olivet Cemetery, Pauls Valley, Oklahoma Coffin or Casket $50.00, Total of Bill $50.00 Williamson Funeral Register page 103
Adalina is firwst reported in the census in 1850 under the name Mary A, as the child of William and Zenith Forrester (entered as Foster). 1850 Federal Census, Gilmer County, Georgia, 5 Octobsr, Subdivision 33, page 82, Hse/Fam #560 William Foster [Forrester] 32 M Farmer $500 Real Estate b SC [b abt 1818] Zenith Foster [Forrester] 23 F b SC [b abt 1927] Thalla Foster [Forrester] 3 M born SC [b abt 1847] Mary A Foster [Forrester] 1 M born GA [b abt 1849] The census reports Adalina's older sister Thalia (Thalla) as born in SC and Mary A born in Geogia. So the family moved to Georgia in about 1848. Later censuses report Thalia also as born in Georgia. It would appear that this 1850 census is correct, being close to the date of birth of both girls and soon afte the move to Georgia. An early census says Zenith had 7 children, but only 6 living as Thalia Ann, Mary Adalina, Martha Manda, Joseph N, and Louisa N [this names only 5]" -- Terri Smith Escamillo, personal message on genealogy site Our Family Tree, 27 February 2011 Mary Adalina Forrester Birth: 16 Sep 1849 - Georgia, United States Death: 21 Apr 1873 - Pickens, Georgia, United States Parents: William Forrester, Zenith Nolastname Spouse: William P. Martin -- Forrester, http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10608355/person/-557776758?ssrc=&ftm=1 1860 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 13 June, Truckwheel District, PO Saunderstown, page 36 (scan 914), Hse #299, Fam #251 William Forester 41 M Farmer born S Carolina [b abt 1839] Zenith Forester 37 F born S Carolina [b abt 1823] Cannot read or write Mary A Forester 11 F born Georgia [b abt 1849] A memorial for Mary Adalina has been posted by Judy Olsen on Find a Grave, which gives us some details and includes a photo of her gravestone. -------------------------------------------- Mary Adalina Forrester Martin Birth Sep. 16, 1849, Georgia, USA Death Apr. 21, 1873, Pickens County, Georgia, USA Spouse William Pinkney Martin (1834 - 1915) Children: Infant Martin Fannie V Martin (____ - 1873) Inscription Adalina Wife of W. P. Martin Burial Jerusalem Baptist Church Cemetery Jasper, Pickens County, Georgia, USA Plot: row 26, grave 13 Created by: Judy Olsen Jul 03, 2006 -- Find A Grave Memorial# 14808951, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Forrester&GSiman=1&GScid=2180906&GRid=14808951& --------------------------------------------
1860 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 13 June, Truckwheel District, PO Saunderstown, page 36 (scan 914), Hse #299, Fam #251 William Forester 41 M Farmer born S Carolina [b abt 1839] Zenith Forester 37 F born S Carolina [b abt 1823] Cannot read or write Nancy M Forester 5 F born Georgia [b abt 1855] 1870 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 25 July, PO Jasper, page 111 (scan 55), Hse/Fam #863 Forester William 51 M W Farmer $200 Real Estate $200 Personal born S Carolina [b abt 1839] Forester Zenith 43 F W Keeping House born S Carolina [b abt 1827] Cannot read or write Forester Nancy M 14 F W Assisting in Keeping House born Georgia [b abt 1856] A few tidbits of information have been contributed by some family researchers. The following gives us the name of Nancy's spouse and two children. I have not included children in this database, but two are reported in the Forester/Jones genealogy, based on the 1880 census. Nancy M Forrester Birth 1855 in Pickens, Georgia, Death Unknown Parents: William M Forrester 1819 - 1894 Zenith E Barnes 1824 - 1907 Spouse Issac Newton Gamblin, Birth 1848 in Georgia Children: Mary Gamblin B: 1878 Margaret Gamblin B: 1879 -- Forester/Jones, http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/19654117/person/1743533622?ssrc=&ftm=1 Enumerated in the 1880 census in Lumpkin County, Georgia, Nancy and her husband Newton Gamblin are living next door to Newton's parents, Garard (Gerrard) and Priscilla, and on the other side of his parents is his brother James and family. 1880 Federal Census, Lumpkin County, Georgia, 8 June, Nimblewill, Georgia Militia District 840, Enumeration District 143, page 11, Hse/Fam #94 Gamlin [sic], Newton W M 27 Head Farmer GA SC SC Gamlin, Nancy M W F 22 Wife Keeping House GA SC SC Gamlin, Mary W F 2 Dau GA GA GA Gamlin, Margaret W F 1 Dau GA GA GA
Thalia is enumerated for the first time at age 3 in the 1850 census under the name Thalla. 1850 Federal Census, Gilmer County, Georgia, 5 October, Subdivision 33, page 82, Hse/Fam #560 William Foster [Forrester] 32 M Farmer $500 Real Estate b SC [b abt 1818] Zenith Foster [Forrester] 23 F b SC [b abt 1927] Thalla Foster [Forrester] 3 M born SC [b abt 1847] Mary A Foster [Forrester] 1 M born SC [b abt 1849] Thalia is found under the nickname Thaly Ann in the 1870 and 1880 censuses. In the 1860 census with her parents, she is listed as Thala A. In 1900 she is simply Ann. Notice that the 1850 census reports that Thalia (Thalla) was born in South Carolina, and the next child born in Georgia. But alter censuses report Thalia also born in Georgia. The older one would like be more correct, since they would have no reason to report one child born in SC and the second one born in GA, and it was closer in time to the move to Georgia. So the birth state will be reported in this genealogy as South Carolina, despite later census reports, which we will consider as erroneous in light of the earlier evidence closer to her birth. 1860 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 13 June, Truckwheel District, PO Saunderstown, page 36 (scan 914), Hse #299, Fam #251 William Forester 41 M Farmer born S Carolina [b abt 1839] Zenith Forester 37 F born S Carolina [b abt 1823] Cannot read or write Thala A Forester 14 F born Georgia [b abt 1846] 1870 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 8 July, Truckwheel, PO Jasper, page 65, Hse/Family #506 Mullins, Martin B 23 M W Farmer Born Georgia (abt 1847) Mullins, Thaly Ann 22 F W Kpng Hse Born Georgia (abt 1848) Mullins, Carr B 3 M W Born Georgia (abt 1867) Mullins, Emma J 1 F W Born Georgia (abt 1869) Corbin, William 7 M W Asstng on Farm Born Georgia (abt 1863) Mullins, Giffin 25 M W Farm Laborer Born Georgia (abt 1845) Note the child enumerated here as William Corbin. He is called Yearby in most sources. The 1880 census almost got it right with Irby. This census did note report the relationship to the head of household, which began in the 1880 census. Some sources have mistaken Thalia's son Yearby for a son of her second husband, Martin Burton Mullins. I had determined this was an error, but had not found the Corbin family link, till Betty Jackson informed me in August 2007 that her husband was descended from a sister of Thalia Ann named Mary A Forrester. Betty gave me the name of Jack Corbin, the father of William, and some basic information that enabled me to trace out the family. There was only one child from their marriage, William Yearby Corbin, because Jack went off to the war, and apparently was killed before he had a chance to return home. I found a genealogy by a Corbin descendant, Bill Corbin, with some excellent information on Andrew Jackson and his parents. From Bill's genealogy I learned that Thalia had married Jack (Andrew Jackson) Corbin before he enlisted to fight for the Confederacy in 1862. He was captured and held in a Union prison camp in Vicksburg for several months before being released "on parole" in July 1863. But he went back into battle, and was killed in an unspecified battle in 1864, before he could go back home. From the dates Bill provides, it appears that Thalia married Jack 25 May 1861, before her 15th birthday in September. Jack enlisted in the Confederate Army on 10 March 1862. William was born 5 October 1862, about a month after his mother's 16th birthday. 1880 Federal Census, Cherokee County, Georgia, 17 June, Salacoa District (906th Civil Dist), District 22, page 24, Hse #208, Family #220 Mullins, Martin W M 35 Farmer GA SC SC Mullins, Thaly A W F 35 Wife Kpng Hse GA SC NC Mullins, Carbalis W M 11 Works on Farm Spinal Affect GA GA GA Mullins, Emma J W F 9 Daughter GA GA GA Mullins, Alfred M W M 7 GA GA GA Mullins, Betsy W F 5 Daughter GA GA GA Mullins, Joseph C W M 3 Son GA GA GA Mullins, Elvira W F 10mos July [1879] Daughter GA GA GA Corban [Corbin], Irby W M 16 Step-son Works on Farm GA GA GA Birth estimates will vary because of the discrepancies in the census age reports. I am following the date of Sep 1846, found in her record of marriage records to Martin Mullins and in the 1900 census. In 1900, Thalia is listed simply as Ann Mullins. Note that the reprot says she has borne 10 children, and only 2 are living, and there are two children living with her in the home. 1900 Federal Census, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory, 23 July, Township 4, District 120, page 53A, Hse/Fam #960 Mullins, Martin Head W M May 1846 59 Married 35 years GA GA GA Rents Mullins, Ann Wife W F Sep 1846 59 Married 35 years 10 children/2 living GA SC SC Mullins, Joe Son W M Apr 1876 24 GA GA GA Farm Laborer Mullins, George Son W M Feb 1886 14 TX GA GA Farm Laborer In 1910, George is stil lliving with his parents. And he is now married for less than a year. Their is an 8-year-old child that appears to be a child of George, but would be with a previous wife. She is not in George's household later, so it is unclear who this grandchild Josie is. 1910 Federal Census, Pottawatomie County, Oklahoma, 19 April, Asher Ward 1, District 194, page 3A, Hse/Fam #44 Mullins, Martin B Head M W 64 Married 43 yrs GA SC NC Own Income Ownership not stated [but see George] Mullins, T Ann Wife F W 63 Married 43 yrs 10 children/7 living GA SC GA Mullins, George B Son M W 25 Married less than a year TX GA GA No Occupation Stated Owns Mullins, Addie Dau-in-law F W 16 Married less than a year OK MO MO Mullins, Josie Granddau F W 8 Single OK GA OK In 1920, Thalia is now a widow and is living in the home of her son Geroge Burton. Goerge is also widowed since the 1910 census. 1920 Federal Census, Pottawatomie County, Oklahoma, 8 January, Asher, 5th Street, District 192 page 10A, Hse/Fam #4 Mullins, George B Head Rents M W 34 TX GA GA Farming Mullins, Frank L Son M W 9 OK TX OK Mullins, Van E Son M W 7 OK TX OK Mullins, Falia [Thalia] A Mother F W 75 GA GA GA House Keeping Thalia Ann's gravestone has a birth date of Sept 15, 1`841. But this is years older than the reprots of her ages in the census. The 1900 census census, which specifically reported birth month and year, reports her born in September 1846. The 1860 census reported her as 14, consistent with birth in 1846. Ages in the census reported here vary, but the earliest birth year would be 1845. It seems to me that the date of birth on the gravestone is wrong. Gravestone of Thalia Ann Forrester Mullins Wanette Cemetery, Wanette (Asher), Pottawatomie County, Oklahoma "Grannie" Thalia Anne Mullins Sept 16, 1841 Apr 18, 1929
Roster of Confederate Soldiers of Georgia 1861-1865 U.S. Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles Thomas P Forrester Residence: Pickens County, Georgia Enlistment Date: 31 Aug 1861, Rank 2nd Sergt Enlisted in Company E, Georgia 23rd Infantry Regiment on 31 Aug 1861 Service Record: Promoted to Full 2nd Lieutenant on 16 Dec 1861 Promoted to Full 1st Lieutenant This enlistment record may be for a younger Thomas Forrester. I have not been able to document another Thomas Forrester in Pickens County, but it seems it was a common name. Our Thomas, born around 1894 would have been about 64 when he volunteered and was mustered. But the Confederacy did have many older men under arms. In the Civil War, everybody fought, though the preference was younger men. The south was way short of men compared to the populous north. The 1870 census records Thomas and his wife Mary in Pickens County, Georgia. 1870 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 25 July, PO Jasper, page 111 (scan 55), Hse/Fam #864 Forester Thomas 76 M W Farmer born N Carolina [b abt 1794] Cannot read or write Forester Mary 73 F W Keeping House born S Carolina [b abt 1797] Cannot read or write Forester Joseph N 4 M W born Georgia [b abt 1866] One or two genealogies report the name of Thomas wife as Mary Tilly. WIth that in mind I was able to find a marriage record, but it can't be our Thomas and Mary. The marriage was in 1800, almost twenty years too early for our couple, born in about 1794 and 1797. This makes it look like the maiden name of Tilley someone reported in their undocumented genealogy is just due to more sloppy patchwork trying to make available names fit the need of filling empty fields in someone’s tree! Maybe there will be another Mary Tilly/Tilley of the next generation who can marry our Thomas about 1816-1818. North Carolina Marriage Collection, 1741-2004 William Forrester Spouse: Mary Tilley Marriage Date: 11 Feb 1800 Marriage State: North Carolina Genealogies report a different person as the wife of Thomas and mother of William. The Lance Family Tree has Thomas' wife as Sarah (Sally) Harris. Note that Sarah's date of death on this genealogy is 1853. This might explain the discrepancy. Mary could be the second wife, married after the death of Sarah. But we will see this won't work either. Sarah Sally Harris Birth 1803 in South Carolina Death 4 Jul 1853 in Kentucky Parents Benjamin Harris 1778-1861 Elizabeth Weaver 1779-1853 Marriage to Thomas P. Forrester 14 Mar 1822 in Harlan, Harlan, Kentucky -- Lance Family, http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/25164897/person/1617414395 An additional problem occurs with this proposed link-up. Thomas married Sarah in 1822, according to the Lance family genealogy, but the age of William indicates he was born in about 1819, so it would mean that Thomas had another wife before Sarah. Another Forrester researcher, Terri Smith Escamillo, found the name of this first wife as J Mary but no last name, as proposed by yet another genealogy. Later Terri came to think the listing in some genealogies of Sarah Harris as a wife of Thomas was wrong. It looks like two different Forrester lines or families have been combined here by these genealogies. (See further notes below.) Since we know that Thomas was married to someone named Mary in 1870, who had died before 1880 (when Thomas is a widower), the J Mary would have to be the first of three wives for Thomas Forrester. The Dedman genealogy has the birth date of Mary J as 1803. J. MaryBirth 1803 in South Carolina, Death in Pickens County, Georgia Spouse Thomas Forrester b 1803 Sons: William M Forrester 1819-1894 Ezekiel Forrester b 1828 [This may be the son of Sarah Harris, who was married to a different Thomas Forrester, in Kentucky] -- Dedman Family, http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/2946109/person/245834062 These discrepancies are best accounted for by the simplest scenario, Thomas had one wife name Mary, and they lived together till she died between 1870 and 1880. These other marriages are due to mis-matches and combinations of two or more Thomas Forrester families. In our separate but communicating lines of research, Terri Escamillo also came to the conclusion that Thomas was married to only one wife, Mary, the mother of William. A problem with the Dedman genealogy and many others is that they do not document where they got their information or document only some. In 1870, Thomas and his wife Mary are living next door to their son, William. The 4-year-old Joseph N who was enumerated in Thomas' household is Thomas' grandson, son of William and his wife Zenith Barnes Forrester. 1870 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 25 July, PO Jasper, page 111 (scan 55), Hse/Fam #863 Forester William 51 M W Farmer $200 Real Estate $200 Personal born S Carolina [b abt 1839] Forester Zenith 43 F W Keeping House born S Carolina [b abt 1827] Cannot read or write Forester Nancy M 14 F W Assisting in Keeping House born Georgia [b abt 1856] Forester Martha M 8 F W At Home born Georgia [b abt 1862] Forester Louisa 3 F W born Georgia [b abt 1867] Next door to William is a household headed by an Ezekiel Forester, age 42. This may be William's brother, and is reported so in the Dedman genealogy above. But that genealogy also reports the same mother for these two children (the only two reported by the genealogy), a Mary J (Unknown>. Since Thomas Forrester married Sarah Smith in 1822, an earlier wife, Mary J would not be the mother of Ezekiel. But this genealogy is incomplete, showing no other wives for Thomas, and no other children besides William and Ezekiel. Further, the census records that have been attached to the tree on Ancestry are from different families, and the death of Thomas is also reported to have been in Kentucky, though he was living in Pickens, Georgia with his son William in 1880. There is the same problem with his marriage in Kentucky to a Sarah Smith, as well as her birth and death in Harlan, Kentucky. Wouldn't it make more sense that this Sarah lived in Kentucky, even if she had been born in South Carolina, married in Kentucky and died in Kentucky, married to a different Thomas Forrester, who also lived and died in Kentucky? Genealogies that have Sarah as the wife of Thomas and mother of William do not tell where they got her information or the marriage date in 1822. This seems to be the wife of a different Thomas Forrester. By 1880, Thomas' wife Mary has died and he is living with his son William. 1880 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 12 June, Jerusalem, District 163, page 19B, Hse/Family #165 Forrester, William W M 61 Farmer SC NC SC Forrester Forrester, Zenith W F 51 Wife Keeping House SC SC SC Forrester, Thomas W M 86 Father Widowed At Home NC NC SC
1860 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 13 June, Truckwheel District, PO Saunderstown, page 36 (scan 914), Hse #299, Fam #251 William Forester 41 M Farmer born S Carolina [b abt 1819] Zenith Forester 37 F born S Carolina [b abt 1823] Cannot read or write Thala A Forester 14 F born Georgia [b abt 1846] Mary A Forester 11 F born Georgia [b abt 1849] Nancy M Forester 5 F born Georgia [b abt 1855] 1870 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 25 July, PO Jasper, page 111 (scan 55), Hse/Fam #863 Forester William 51 M W Farmer $200 Real Estate $200 Personal born S Carolina [b abt 1839] Forester Zenith 43 F W Keeping House born S Carolina [b abt 1827] Cannot read or write Forester Nancy 14 F W Assisting in Keeping House born Georgia [b abt 1856] Forester Martha M 8 F W At Home born Georgia [b abt 1862] Forester Louisa 3 F W born Georgia [b abt 1867] Mullinax Francis 18 F W House Keeper born Georgia [b abt 1852] Cannot read or write I have not figured out just who this Francis Mullinax is. Living next door is William's parents. William and Zenith's youngest child Joseph N is enumerator in the household of his grandparents. From other family information, there is a child missing here. An Amanda Forrester, who married Robert Berry Smith, has also been reported as another daughter of William and Zenith. She was born in 1861, but none of the children in the 1860 or 1870 census match this Amanda. Though her Oklahoma death certificate reports that Amanda's parents were "Bill" and "Zenis" Forrester, very close to our William and Zenith, I have found not evidence actually tying her to this William and Amanda Forrester. Nor have I, working with another Forrester researcher, been able to discover alternative parents for Amanda. 1870 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 25 July, PO Jasper, page 111 (scan 55), Hse/Fam #864 Forester Thomas 76 M W Farmer born N Carolina [b abt 1794] Cannot read or write Forester Mary 73 F W Keeping House born S Carolina [b abt 1797] Cannot read or write Forester Joseph N 4 M W born Georgia [b abt 1866] 1880 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 12 June, Jerusalem, District 163, page 19B, Hse/Family #165 Forrester, William W M 61 Farmer SC NC SC Forrester Forrester, Zenith W F 51 Wife Keeping House SC SC SC Forrester, Martha M W F 17 Dau House Keeping GA SC SC Forrester, Joseph N W M16 Son Work on Farm GA SC SC Forrester, Louisa L W F 15 Dau Work on Farm GA SC SC Forrester, Thomas W M 86 Father Widowed At Home NC NC SC No daughter named Amanda appears in the 1880 census, either, though Amanda Forrester Smith is reported to be a daughter of William and Zenith. A descendant wrote to provide some additional details on this family, while looking for some missing data as well. Terri Escamillo told me that her great grandmother was named Amanda, or Manda/Mandy. Initially it was thought that Manda was the same daughter as Martha, whose middle initial was M. I had found Martha Forrester in the 1900 census with her mother Zenith, and then found Amanda Forrester Smith in Tennessee in 1900 with her known husband Robert Smith, in Tennessee. In 1910 they show up in Oklahoma, where they lived in Pauls Valley till Amanda died in 1940. This meant Amanda and Martha were not the same person. Terri later confirmed that she also had come to think differently, finding independent evidence about Amanda. "An early census says Zenith had 7 children, but only 6 living as Thalia Ann, Mary Adalina, Martha, Joseph N, and Louisa N [Louisa L in census records, and another daughter Nancy M]. The birth dates for Manda vary from 1861 to 1866 on the censuses." -- Terri Smith Escamillo, personal message on genealogy site Our Family Tree, 27 February 2011 In January 2012, I discussed this matter with Terri again, after finding the separate 1900 census records for Martha and Amanda. Terri replied: "I have never found documents for Amanda when she was a child. I have censuses with William and Zenith and their other children though. The only place I find their names is Amanda's death cert. I have talked to the woman who has the tree with the TN census and it's been a while but I believe it is the Forrester family she is researching the line for her husband's side." -- Terri Smith Escamillo, note on genealogy site Our Family Tree, 3 January 2012 "Zenith is Zenith Barnes of South Carolina b-1829 and d-1907 Jerusalem Georgia Other children of Zenith and William Forrester b-1819 Mary Adalina 1849-1873 Nancy M 1855 Martha Forrester birth betwn 1861 and 1866 Jerusalem, Georgia" -- Terri Smith Escamillo, note on genealogy site Our Family Tree, 27 February 2011 Terri also points out that her ancestor, Amanda Forrester is another daughter of William and Zenith, but she has not found birth or census information on her. Her grave information in Pauls Valley, Oklahoma, indicates she is their daughter. Amanda appears in some Forrester genealogies, but not in others. William and Zenith are buried side by side in Jerusalem Baptist Cemetery near Jasper, Pickens County, Georgia. William's date of death is given on the stone. His birth date on the broken stone is unreadable. He is identified only by his initials. A memorial is posted on Find a Grave. W M Forrester Birth unknown, Death Feb. 5, 1894 Burial Jerusalem Baptist Church Cemetery Jasper, Pickens County, Georgia, USA Created by David & Gail Ray Jan 21, 2008 Find A Grave Memorial# 24088137 -- Find A Grave, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=forrester&GSfn=+&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=12&GScnty=494&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=24088137&df=all&
1880 Federal Census, Bowie County, Texas, 31 June, Precinct 4, page 13, District 5, Hse/Fam #111 Forsythe, James B W M 47 Farmer Cannot Read or write TN NC NC Forsythe, Francis A W F 37 Wife Keeps House TN -- -- Forsythe, Jason W M 19 Son Single Works on Farm Cannot Read or write TX TN TN Forsythe, Robert W M 17 Son Works on Farm Cannot Read or write TX TN TN Forsythe, Page W M 12 Son Works on Farm Cannot Read or write TX TN TN Forsythe, James W M 9 Son TX TN TN Forsythe, Lucy J WF 6 Dau TX TN TN Forsythe, Jackson W M 1mo Son TX TN TN 1900 Federal Census, Creek Nation, Indian Territory, 1 June, Township 11, District 63, page 11B, Hse/Fam #12 Forsyth, James B Head W M Mar 1833 67 Married 40 years TN SC SC Farm Laborer Rents Forsyth, Francis A Wife W F Feb 1843 57 Married 40 yrs 8 children/6 living TN TN TN Forsyth, Andrew J Son W M April 1880 20 Single TX TN TN Farm Laborer Forsyth, Hattie Daughter W F Sept 1883 16 Single TX TN TN ---------------- Andrew Jackson Forsyth BIRTH 11 Apr 1880 DEATH 28 May 1923 (aged 43) BURIAL Wards Creek Cemetery, Simms, Bowie County, Texas, USA Parents: James Bailey Forsyth 1835-1914 Spouse Cora Elizabeth Waldon Forsyth 1883-1973 Siblings: Lucy Pitts Jason Forsyth 1860 - unknown Page A Forsythe 1868-1931 James Bailey Forsyth 1870-1905 (m. 1894) Harriet Angeline Forsyth Perkins 1883-1927 Shared Stone Inscription ANDREW J FORSYTH APRIL 11, 1880 MAY 28, 1923 --- CORA E FORSYTH JAN 8, 1883 OCT 28, 1973 Created by Rajordan 2 Nov 2009 -- Find A Grave Memorial 43843013, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/43843013 ----------------
1910 Federal Census, Bowie County, Texas, 16 April, Precinct 4, District 17, page 2A, Hse/Fam #14 Forsyth, Thomas Head M W 27 Married 8 yrs TX TX TX Farmer Owns Forsyth, Nipsie Wife F W 24 Married 8 yrs 3 children/3 living TX AR AR Forsyth, Charlie Son M W 5 Single TX TX TX Forsyth, Hardimin (?, Hardeman?) Son M W 3 Single TX TX TX Forsyth, Odessa Dau F W 15mos (?) Single TX TX TX U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014 Charlie Forsyth Birth Date 7 Sep 1904 Death Date Nov 1978 Last Residence De Kalb, Bowie, Texas, 75559 SSN 463-28-8531 Issued Before 1951 in Texas
1900 Federal Census, Creek Nation, Indian Territory, 1 June, Township 11, District 63, page 11B, Hse/Fam #12 Forsyth, James B Head W M Mar 1833 67 Married 40 years TN SC SC Farm Laborer Rents Forsyth, Francis A Wife W F Feb 1843 57 Married 40 yrs 8 children/6 living TN TN TN Forsyth, Andrew J Son W M April 1880 20 Single TX TN TN Farm Laborer Forsyth, Hattie Daughter W F Sept 1883 16 Single TX TN TN "James Bailey & Francis had another son, Robert, who was killed in 1882 when he was 19. There is no grave memorial for him and no details about his burial, only that they were living in Bowie County at the time. There is a story 'Edith Perkins Said' that gives the account of his death. Edith was Winfred Scott & Harriet Angeline Forsyth Perkins' daughter as was my grandmother." -- Lynda Lewis, email to Orville Boyd Jenkins, 14 March 2020 Texas, Death Certificates, 1903-1982 Hattie Perkins White Female, Married Housewife Age 43 yrs, 8 mos, 6 days Birth 18 September 1883 Texas Residence Pelly (Harris County), Texas, USA Married, Housewife Father Jim Forsyth, birthplace not known Mother Francis Moore, birthplace not known Informant John Forsyth (husband) Death 24 May 1927 Houston, Harris County, Texas, USA Cause of Death Intestinal Obstruction, Post-operation, Contributory Hystorectomy, Bilateral salfingophrectomy, 12 days, contracted in Hermann Hospital, Autopsy was held Burial 25 May 1927 in Goose Creek Cemetery, Goose Creek (Harris County), Texas Certificate #16716 filed 13 July 1927 Note that her death certificate reports that the cemetery is called Goose Creek and is in Goose Creek community, but the cemetery listings on Find a Grave call this cemetery Hill of Rest Cemetery, Baytown, Harris County, Texas. ---------------- Harriet Angeline “Hattie†Forsyth Perkins BIRTH 21 Sep 1883 Texas, USA DEATH 24 May 1927 (aged 43) Houston, Harris County, Texas, USA BURIAL Hill of Rest Cemetery, Baytown, Harris County, Texas, Plot 461 Daughter of James Bailey "Jim" Forsyth 1835-1914 and Francis Moore Spouse Winfield Scott Perkins 1868-1936 Siblings: Lucy Pitts Jason Forsyth 1860 - unknown Page A Forsythe 1868-1931 James Bailey Forsyth 1870-1905 (m. 1894) Andrew Jackson Forsyth 1880-1923 Children: Edith Estelle Perkins Hallett 1902-2003 Dewey A Perkins 1904-1973 Leath Ozell Perkins Conklin 1906-1967 Lannie Marcelle Perkins Rotenberry 1908-1979 Ruth Grace Perkins Gautesen 1911-1997 Leonard Winfield Perkins 1919-1985 Created by Al Howell 8 Jul 2010 -- Find A Grave Memorial 54664799, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/54664799/perk ---------------- Perkins W S May 1, 1868 Mar 23, 1936 Hattie Forsyth 21 Sep 1883 24 May 1927 Hill of Rest Cemetery, Baytown, Harris County, Texas, Plot 461 Photo by Norris Long on 27 July 2012, accessed on Find a Grave 16 March 2020
Some genealogies report Ira J Forsyth as a child of Thomas J Forsyth and Nipsie Stroud. But they did not marry until some time in the year 1902. The 1910 census reproted that Nipsie had had three children and all three are still iving, rep[oprted inthat census. Ira was buried in Cedar Creek Cemetery, Red River County, with other Forsyths, with the same birth and death year of 1902. It is thought that Ira J Forsyth was the stillborn child of Thomas' father Jason Forsyth and hsi second wife Lavonia Reed. Lavonia died sometime about 1902, because later that year Jason married Amanda White Moore a widow who lived nearby. It is thought she died in childbirth, which would match this burial of Ira. Ira shares a gravestone put up later after two other chidlren died. The girls Dessa and Nellie aer the chiudlren of Thomas and Nipsie. Forsyth Children Ira J 1902-1902 Dessa 1908-1911 Nellie 1914-1914 Cedar Creek (Old Cedar) Cemetery, Red River County, Texas Photo by Granville & Patricia Murphy 9 April 2010, accessed on Find a Grave 14 March 2020 Ira J Forsyth Birth 1902 Death 1902 (aged less-than 1 year) Parents: Jason Forsyth 1860 - unknown Lavonia Reed Forsyth 1882-1902 Siblings: Thomas J Forsyth 1881-1940 John A Forsyth 1883-1965 (m. 1906) Burial Cedar Creek Cemetery, Red River County, Texas, USA Maintained by Lawrence & Sue Dale, Originally Created by Granville & Patricia Murphy 13 Apr 2010 -- Find A Grave Memorial 51037464, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/51037464/ira-j-forsyth
Jim Forsyth was one of the Tennesseans who fought for the Union in the Civil War. ------------------------ James Bailey Forsyth was born in Fayetteville, Tennessee but unlike other Lincoln County men joined the Union Army and fought against his neighbors and possibly relatives who served as Confederate soldiers. State Served: Tennessee Service Record: Enlisted as a Corporal Enlisted in Company B, 6th Mounted Infantry Regiment Tennessee. -- Notes courtesy of Kaye Hicks, Ancestry Story, posted Posted 15 Sep 2013 , accessed 14 March 2020 ------------------------ Though this Civil War record matches our James Bailey Forsyth, we also find that James had already migrated to Texas several months before the Civil War started. What appears to be James and Francis, with a son David (who does not appear in later censuses of this family) were enumerated there in the 1860 US census with his wife Francis and their children, in Kaufman County, east of Dallas County. It would seem most likely that he joined the Union forces from this location, but that would have presented impediments, since Texas and the southern Native tribes of Indian Territory joined the Confederacy, as well as the surrounding states of Arkansas and Louisiana. So how he would gotten through to join Union forces from east Texas is unclear. After the war, like so many others, he settled in east Texas, living in various counties in the northeast corner, then moving across the Red River into the Creek Nation of Indian Territory. By 1900 James and his wife Francis Moore, with their two youngest children, were in Creek Nation, north of the Red River. Some of their children continued to live in northeast Texas. What is definitely our James and Francis were enumerated in 1870 in the northeast Texas county of Titus. 1870 Federal Census, Titus County, Texas, 27 July, PO Mt Pleasant, page 107, Hse/Fam #741 Forsythe, James B 37 M W Farming $320 Real Estate $100 Personal Estate born Georgia Cannot read Forsythe, Francis 27 F W Keeping House born Tennessee Cannot read [b abt 1843] Forsythe, Jacin [Jason] 10 F W born Texas Cannot read or write [b abt 1860] Forsythe, Robert 7 M W born Texas Forsythe, Page 2 M W born Texas The family had moved to neighboring Bowie County, whose county seat is Texarkana, on the border with Arkansas. 1880 Federal Census, Bowie County, Texas, 31 June, Precinct 4, page 13, District 5, Hse/Fam #111 Forsythe, James B W M 47 Farmer Cannot Read or write TN NC NC Forsythe, Francis A W F 37 Wife Keeps House TN -- -- Forsythe, Jason W M 19 Son Single Works on Farm Cannot Read or write TX TN TN Forsythe, Robert W M 17 Son Works on Farm Cannot Read or write TX TN TN Forsythe, Page W M 12 Son Works on Farm Cannot Read or write TX TN TN Forsythe, James W M 9 Son TX TN TN Forsythe, Lucy J WF 6 Dau TX TN TN Forsythe, Jackson W M 1mo Son TX TN TN Early Members of the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints James B Forsyth Birth Mar 1833 Fayetteville, Lincoln, Tennessee Death Date Dec 1914 RLDS Deceased Files/ Shawnee, Texas, RLDS Branch Records James B Forsyth was baptized a member of the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints on 24 September 1911 at Dalby Springs, Bowie, Texas, by L A Quick. He was confirmed by E A Erwin and L A Quick. He attended the Shawnee, Texas Branch. Shawnee is in Angelina County, which is considerably south of the areas where we know he lived.] Dalby Springs is the core area of the family's residence, and the place of birth of several of James and Francis' children. They moved across the Red River in Creek Nation, as indicated by the 1900 census. But his death is reported in Bowie County, Texas. Angelina County is out of bounds of anything else we know about the family. They would have to travel several days to get to Shawnee. Perhaps there was another unregistered community in northeast Texas called Shawnee locally. At some time before the 1900 census, they moved north into Creek Nation. 1900 Federal Census, Creek Nation, Indian Territory, 1 June, Township 11, District 63, page 11B, Hse/Fam #12 Forsyth, James B Head W M Mar 1833 67 Married 40 years TN SC SC Farm Laborer Rents Forsyth, Francis A Wife W F Feb 1843 57 Married 40 yrs 8 children/6 living TN TN TN Forsyth, Andrew J Son W M April 1880 20 Single TX TN TN Farm Laborer Forsyth, Hattie Daughter W F Sept 1883 16 Single TX TN TN They were back into Texas before the 1910 census. 1910 Federal Census, Bowie County, Texas, 16 April, Precinct 4, District 17, page 2A, Hse #18, Fam #19 Forsyth, James B Head M W 77 Married 51 yrs TN SC SC Farmer Rents Forsyth, Francis Wife F W 67 Married 51 yrs 8 children/5 living TN TN TN Forsyth, Page Son M W 42 Marriage Married 5 yrs TX TN TN Forsyth, Mary F F W 43 2nd Marriage Married 5 yrs 0 children TX SC SC Their grandson Thomas and his family were enumerated on the same page with James and Francis in 1910. 1910 Federal Census, Bowie County, Texas, 16 April, Precinct 4, District 17, page 2A, Hse/Fam #14 Forsyth, Thomas Head M W 27 Married 8 yrs TX TX TX Farmer Owns Forsyth, Nipsie Wife F W 24 Married 8 yrs 3 children/3 living TX AR AR Forsyth, Charlie Son M W 5 Single TX TX TX Forsyth, Hardimin (?, Hardeman?) Son M W 3 Single TX TX TX Forsyth, Odessa Dau F W 15mos (?) Single TX TX TX ---------------- James Bailey “Jim†Forsyth BIRTH Mar 1835 Fayetteville, Lincoln County, Tennessee, USA DEATH Dec 1914 (aged 79) BURIAL Cedar Creek Cemetery, Red River County, Texas James Bailey Forsyth was born in Fayetteville, Tennessee but unlike other Lincoln County men joined the Union Army and fought against his neighbors and possibly relatives who served as Confederate soldiers. State Served: Tennessee Service Record: Enlisted as a Corporal. Enlisted in Company B, 6th Mounted Infantry Regiment Tennessee. [This seems somewhat questionable, since there is a census record that appears to be for James and his wife Francis in Kaufman County, Texas, for 1860. I does not seem he would have joined the Union forces from Texas in a Tennessee regiment. Perhaps they are two very similar couples.] Children: Lucy Pitts Jason Forsyth 1860 - unknown Page A Forsythe 1868-1931 James Bailey Forsyth 1870-1905 Andrew Jackson Forsyth 1880-1923 Harriet Angeline Forsyth Perkins 1883-1927 Maintained by Lawrence & Sue Dale, Originally Created by Granville & Patricia Murphy 13 Apr 2010 -- Find A Grave Memorial 51037229, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/51037229 ----------------
1880 Federal Census, Bowie County, Texas, 31 June, Precinct 4, page 13, District 5, Hse/Fam #111 Forsythe, James B W M 47 Farmer Cannot Read or write TN NC NC Forsythe, Francis A W F 37 Wife Keeps House TN -- -- Forsythe, Jason W M 19 Son Single Works on Farm Cannot Read or write TX TN TN Forsythe, Robert W M 17 Son Works on Farm Cannot Read or write TX TN TN Forsythe, Page W M 12 Son Works on Farm Cannot Read or write TX TN TN Forsythe, James W M 9 Son TX TN TN Forsythe, Lucy J WF 6 Dau TX TN TN Forsythe, Jackson W M 1mo Son TX TN TN Texas, Marriage Index, 1824-2014 J B Foresyth, Male B C Clark, Female Marriage 6 Oct 1894 Bowie County, Texas, USA Jim died McCurtain County, Oklahoma in 1905. His wife was reported in the Hot Springs, Arknasas, City Directory in the 1912 edition. U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 Hot Springs, Arkansas, City Directory, 1912, p 161 Forsyth Belle (wid James), cook, r 703 Quapaw Forsyth Miss Clara, tel o pr, b 703 Quapaw U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 Opal S Wooley [Opal S Forsythe] Birth 6 Jan 1905 Avery, Texas Death Date 22 Dec 1992 Father Jim Forsythe Mother Mary B Clark SSN 430199050 21 Sep 1972 Name listed as OPAL S WOOLEY
1910 Federal Census, Bowie County, Texas, 16 April, Precinct 4, District 17, page 2A, Hse/Fam #14 Forsyth, Thomas Head M W 27 Married 8 yrs TX TX TX Farmer Owns Forsyth, Nipsie Wife F W 24 Married 8 yrs 3 children/3 living TX AR AR Forsyth, Charlie Son M W 5 Single TX TX TX Forsyth, Hardimin (?, Hardeman?) Son M W 3 Single TX TX TX Forsyth, Odessa Dau F W 15mos (?) Single TX TX TX Texas, Death Index, 1903-2000 James Forsyth Death 6 Feb 1979 Titus County U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014 James Forsyth Birth Date 14 Feb 1906 Death Date Feb 1979 Last Residence 75455, Mount Pleasant, Titus, Texas, USA SSN 453-22-5107 Issued Before 1951 in Texas
In 1870 Jason's parents reported he was born in Texas. They were in Titus County in the northeast of the state along the Red River 1870 Federal Census, Titus County, Texas, 27 July, PO Mt Pleasant, page 107, Hse/Fam #741 Forsythe, James B 37 M W Farming $320 Real Estate $100 Personal Estate born Georgia Cannot read Forsythe, Francis 27 F W Keeping House born Tennessee Cannot read [b abt 1843] Forsythe, Jacin [Jason] 10 F W born Texas Cannot read or write [b abt 1860] Forsythe, Robert 7 M W born Texas Forsythe, Page 2 M W born Texas Jason's family moved northeast from Titus County to neighboring Bowie County, which borders Arkansas and Oklahoma. 1880 Federal Census, Bowie County, Texas, 31 June, Precinct 4, page 13, District 5, Hse/Fam #111 Forsythe, James B W M 47 Farmer Cannot Read or write TN NC NC Forsythe, Francis A W F 37 Wife Keeps House TN -- -- Forsythe, Jason W M 19 Son Single Works on Farm Cannot Read or write TX TN TN Forsythe, Robert W M 17 Son Works on Farm Cannot Read or write TX TN TN Forsythe, Page W M 12 Son Works on Farm Cannot Read or write TX TN TN Forsythe, James W M 9 Son TX TN TN Forsythe, Lucy J WF 6 Dau TX TN TN Forsythe, Jackson W M 1mo Son TX TN TN In December 1880, Jason married Emily Christian. Several genealogies report her name as Amanda Emily Christian, conflating the names of Jason's first and third wivew. Jason's wife in the 1910 and 1920 censuses is reported as Amanda or Mandy. Texas Marriage Collection, 1814-1909 and 1966-2002 Jason Forsyth Marriage Date 23 Dec 1880 Cass County, Texas Spouse Emily Christian Texas, County Tax Rolls, 1846-1910 J A Forsyth 1887 Bowie County, Texas A marriage record is found that gives more information on Lavonia. A marriage reocrd has her name as Lafania Read. We had found the name as Reed. Texas, Marriage Index, 1824-2014 J A Forsythe, Male Lafania Read, Female Marriage 7 July 1898 Bowie County, Texas, USA If this is the same Jason Forsyth, it would seem to mean that Emily Christian died before 1898. But after 1900, Jason's wife is named Amanda or Mandy. Some genealogies name Emily Christian as Amanda Emily Christian. In light of current research, this is untenable, seeming to be a conflation of the names of Emily Christian and Amanda (White). 1900 Federal Census, Bowie County, Texas, 1 June, Precinct 4, District 12, page 1A, Hse/Fam #2 Forsyth, Jason A Head W M Jun 1860 39 Married 2 yrs TX MO TN Farmer Owns Forsyth, Lavonia Wife W F F[eb?] 1882 18 Married 2 yrs 0 children/0 living TX Unknown TX Forsyth, Thomas Son W M Sep 1881 18 Single TX TX TX Farm Laborer Forsyth, John Son W M May 1883 17 Single TX TX TX Farm Laborer Forsyth, Lenard Son W M Jan 1887 13 Single TX TX TX Farm Laborer Forsyth, Ella Dau W F Jan 1892 8 Single TX TX TX As we analyse the 1910 and 1920 censuses, we find that Amanda/Mandy is reported born in Arkansas, while Lavonia was reported born in Texas. From this it appears that this Mandy or Amanda is again a thrid wife. Yet many sources identify her as the same Emily Chirstian of the 1880 census, naming her Amanda Emily Christian. This ignores the 1898 marriage of Jason to Livonia Reed. The great body of records gathered now indicarte clearly that Emily Christian was Jason's first wife, and Amanda White was his third wife. In between he was married to Lavonia or Livonia Reed for about four years, before she died. Researcher Lynda Soape Lewis discovered Amanda's name as Amanda White. We had not found a record with this surname, but the other information about Amanda's marriage to Frank M Moore matches the information we had found earlier concerning Amanda's first marriage. But we had not found that marriage record or Ora Moore Goodman's death certificate reporting the name of her father.. "I found Jason married to a Amanda "Mandy" White Moore in 1910. She had two children by a previous marriage Audry Love Moore & Ola Esther Moore. Both children were listed as Jason' daughter. However, in the 1900 Census, Amanda Moore was a widow with the same two children. Also, I found their father to be Frank M Moore as stated on Ora Ester Moore Goodman's death certificate." -- Lynda Soape Lewis, Find a Grave Message to Orville Boyd Jenkins, 2 March 2020 1910 Federal Census, Bowie County, Texas, 18 April, Precinct 4, District 19, page 2A, Hse/Fam #23 Forsyth, Jason A Head M W 49 Marriage 2 Married 8 years TX TN TNFarmer Owns Forsyth, Amanda Wife F W 40 Marriage 1 Married 8 years children not rptd AR TN AR Moore, Audrey Stepdau 16 Single TX AR TX Moore, Ola Stepdau M W 14 TX AR TX Forsyth, Leonard Son M W 23 TX TX TX Note that the 1910 census reports that this is Jason's second marriage, but in fact Amanda White is his third wife. The census reports they have been married for 8 years, meaning they married in about 1902. This must mean that Lavonia Reed died after only about four years of marriage. 1920 Federal Census, Bowie County, Texas, 19 January, Dalby Springs, District 21, page 2B, Hse/Fam #38 Forsyth, Jason Head Owns M W 59 TX TN TN Farmer Forsyth, Mandy Wife F W 52 AR AR AR Goodman, Ora Dau F W 24 Widow TX TN AR Goodman, Gladys Granddau F W 2yrs8mos TX TX TX Goodman, Austin Dau [Son] F [M] W 1yr2mos TX TX TX Jason was buried in Cedar Creek Cemetery, Red River County, Texas. His gravestone has no dates. Family genealogies report he died in 1925, but provided no documentation or details. His third wife Amanda is reported as a widow in the 1930 census. We provided uipdated information on Jason and his 3 wives and transcriptions of records to the managers of their memorials on Find a Grave and theese were added with name corrections and relationshi links added by Sue Dale. Many thanks to her for her good work in updating these memorials from our research. ---------------------- Jason Forsyth Birth June 1860 Texas Death unknown Father James Bailey Forsyth 1835-1914 In between the death of Emily Christian and the marriage in 1902 to Amanda Elizabeth White, Jason married Lavonia Reed. Their marriage record is found in Bowie County records. No death or burial record is found for her. Texas, Marriage Index, 1824-2014 J A Forsythe, Male Lafania Read, Female Marriage 7 July 1898 Bowie County, Texas, USA Lavonia is Jason's wife in the 1910 census with all Emily's children in the home 1900 Federal Census, Bowie County, Texas, 1 June, Precinct 4, District 12, page 1A, Hse/Fam #2 Forsyth, Jason A Head W M Jun 1860 39 Married 2 yrs TX MO TN Farmer Owns Forsyth, Lavonia Wife W F F[eb?] 1882 18 Married 2 yrs 0 children/0 living TX Unknown TX Forsyth, Thomas Son W M Sep 1881 18 Single TX TX TX Farm Laborer Forsyth, John Son W M May 1883 17 Single TX TX TX Farm Laborer Forsyth, Lenard Son W M Jan 1887 13 Single TX TX TX Farm Laborer Forsyth, Ella Dau W F Jan 1892 8 Single TX TX TX Father James Bailey Forsyth 1835-1914 Spouses: Emily Christian Forsyth (m. 1880) Lavonia Reed Forsyth 1882-1901 (m. 1898) Amanda Elizabeth White Forsyth 1868-1955 (m. 1902) Children: Thomas J Forsyth 1881-1940 John A Forsyth 1883-1965 Siblings: Lucy Pitts Page A Forsythe 1868-1931 James Bailey Forsyth 1870-1905 (m. 1894) Andrew Jackson Forsyth 1880-1923 Harriet Angeline Forsyth Perkins 1883-1927 Burial Cedar Creek Cemetery, Red River County, Texas Created by Granville & Patricia Murphy Apr 13, 2010 -- Find A Grave Memorial #51037161, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/51037161/jason-forsyth ---------------------- There is another J A Forsyth buried in Collin County who died in 1925. I don't know if he is related to family of this Jason A Forsyth.
U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014 Jewel Forsyth Death Date Nov 1985 Birth Date 3 Sep 1910 SSN 460-20-1091 Issued Before 1951 in Texas Last Residence Scroggins, Franklin, Texas, 75480 Last Benefit Mount Vernon, Franklin, Texas, 75457 Texas, Death Index, 1903-2000 Jewel Forsyth Death 15 Nov 1985 Franklin County ---------------- Jewel Jason Forsyth BIRTH 3 Sep 1910 DEATH 5 Nov 1985 (aged 75) BURIAL Providence Cemetery, Mount Vernon, Franklin County, Texas, USA Parents: Thomas J Forsyth 1881-1940 Nipsie E Stroud Forsyth 1883-1955 Spouse Ruie Lucille Brooks Forsyth 1931-2012 Siblings: Odessa Forsyth 1908-1911 Nellie Forsyth 1914-1914 Children: Jerry Lee Forsyth 1953-1998 Robert Dale Forsyth 1956-2015 Carolyn Rae Forsyth Stephens 1965-2013 Created by C R 26 Aug 2013 -- Find A Grave Memorial 116074410, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/116074410 ----------------
In the 1900 census, John was reported as the 17-year-old son of Jason A Forsyth and his wife Lavonia. An oddity here is that an 1880 marriage record in Cass County, Texas, (just south of Bowie County) reports the marriage of Jason A Forsyth to Emily Christian, ages of neither one reported on the marriage record. John's death certificate in Morris County, just west of Cass County, reported his mother as Emily McChristian. This is consistent with the marriage record, and we do find some of the Christian family line reported under the name of McChristian as well as Christian. This census record would make it appear that Lavonia here is a different wife from the Emily Christian whom Jason married in 1880. However, in the 1910 and 1920 censuses the wife of Jason is again reported as Amanda, which Christian family researchers know as another name of Emily Christian, as Amanda Emily Christian. The 1920 census reports Jason's wife as Mandy. The ages reported make Amanda/Mandy younger than the age we would expect for Emily to match an 1880 marriage. On the other hand, we do know that reported ages varied considerably record to record in that era, that not being a technical focus like it became over the course of the 20th century into the modern world. 1900 Federal Census, Bowie County, Texas, 1 June, Precinct 4, District 12, page 1A, Hse/Fam #2 Forsyth, Jason A Head W M Jun 1860 39 Married 2 yrs TX MO TN Farmer Owns Forsyth, Lavonia Wife W F F[eb?] 1882 18 Married 2 yrs 0 children/0 living TX Unknown TX Forsyth, John Son W M May 1883 17 Single TX TX TX Farm Laborer In 1906 Johbn married Katie Sullivan. Texas, County Marriage Records, 1817-1965 John Forsythe Kate or Katie Sullivan Marriage 18 Nov 1906 Bowie County, Texas, USA Katie's name is found spelled Katy sometimes, and on her gravestone, it is even spelled Kattie, which would normally represent the pronunciation "cattie." But her name was pronounced Katie, as her husband reported it on his WWI registration. Her daughter's Social Security records reports the name under the spellilng Katy. U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 Bernice Delean Caddenhead [Bernice For Cox] [Bernice Cox] [Bernice Delean Forsyth] Birth 8 Apr 1915 Dekalb, Bowie County, Texas Death Date 26 Jan 1997 Father John A Forsyth Mother Katy K Sullivan SSN 457188840 Feb 1938 Name listed as BERNICE DELEAN CADDENHEAD; Jan 1954 Name listed as BERNICE FOR COX; 08 Dec 1974 Name listed as BERNICE DELEAN COX; 10 Feb 1977 Name listed as BERNICE DELEAN FORSYTH COX; 05 Feb 1997 Name listed as BERNICE COX Texas, Death Certificates, 1903-1982 John A Forsyth Age 81 yrs, 11 mos, 11 days Birth 18 May 1883 Texas Farming, Widowed Residence Route 4, DeKalb, Bowie County, Texas Father Jason Forsyth Mother Emily McChristian Informant Horace Forsyth Death 29 April 1965 Granberry Memorial Hospital, Naples, Morris County, Texas, stay of 4 days Cause of Death Pulmonary Emphysema for 5 years Removal 29 April 1965 for preparation for burial in Roberts Cemetery, DeKalb, Bowie County, Texas, by Hanner, Clyde and Rolf Certificate #32342 filed 6 May 1965, filed State 4 June 1985 John A Forsyth Birth May 18, 1883 Texas, USA Death Apr 29, 1965 Naples, Morris County, Texas, USA Parents: Jason Forsyth 1860 - unknown Emily Christian Forsyth 1860 - unknown Spouse Kattie K Sullivan Forsyth 1887 - 1952 (m. 1906) Siblings: Brother Thomas J Forsyth 1881-1940 Louella Hardeman Forsyth Allen 1892-1943 Half Siblings: Ira J Forsyth 1902-1902 Children: Lela Mae Forsyth Van Noy 1907-1983 Horace Clifton Forsyth 1912-1979 Clarence Edward Forsyth 1918-2006 Burial Roberts Cemetery, Bowie County, Texas Created by Granville & Patricia Aug 15, 2011 -- Find A Grave Memorial #74971871, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/74971871
1900 Federal Census, Bowie County, Texas, 1 June, Precinct 4, District 12, page 1A, Hse/Fam #2 Forsyth, Jason A Head W M Jun 1860 39 Married 2 yrs TX MO TN Farmer Owns Forsyth, Lavonia Wife W F F[eb?] 1882 18 Married 2 yrs 0 children/0 living TX Unknown TX Forsyth, Lenard Son W M Jan 1887 13 Single TX TX TX Farm Laborer 1910 Federal Census, Bowie County, Texas, 18 April, Precinct 4, District 19, page 2A, Hse/Fam #23 Forsyth, Jason A Head M W 49 Marriage 2 Married 8 years TX TN TNFarmer Owns Forsyth, Amanda Wife F W 40 Marriage 1 Married 8 years children not rptd AR TN AR Forsyth, Leonard Son M W 23 TX TX TX Leonard moved to Memphis, Tennessee, and he registered for the WWI draft there. We do not know when he moved there. He was already married by 1917, and was supporting his wife Bertha Ann Lewellyn and her mother. U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Leonard Forsyth Residence 160 Mill St, Memphis, Shelby, Tennessee, USA Birth 23 January 1887 Dalby Springs (Bowie County), Texas, USA Occupation Carpenter, ICRR, in Nonconner Yards Married, Wife and Mother-in-law are dependents Tall, Slim, Dark Blue Eyes, Red Hair Registered 5 June 1917 in Memphis, Tennessee Leonard and Bertha moved to Florida at some time. 1935 Florida State Census, Dixie County, Precinct 7, page 1 L J Forsyth Cross City Fla Outside City Limits Age 48 Husband born Texas 8th grade edu Fruit Dealer Bertha Forsyth Cross City Fla Outside Age 48 Wife born Mississippi 8th grade edu owner Housewife Florida Death Index, 1877-1998 Leonard J Forsyth Death 7 Nov 1971 Taylor County, Florida Age at Death 84 Birth Date 23 Jan 1887 U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014 Leonard Forsyth Born 23 Jan 1887 Died Nov 1971 Last Residence Salem, Taylor, Florida 32356 SSN 266-20-3591 issued Florida (Before 1951) Leonard Jackson Forsyth Birth Jan 23, 1887 Death Nov 7, 1971 Spouse Bertha Ann Lewellyn Forsyth (1886 - 1967) Burial Mingo Cemetery, Cross City, Dixie County, Florida Maintained by Pamela Lewellyn Strickland, Originally Created by Betty Jones Mikell Sep 14, 2007 - Find A Grave Memorial #21554982, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/21554982