Notes for Stephen LE SCROPE


The Tudor Place Data provides a summary of Sir Stephen Le Scrope's life:

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Stephen SCROPE (Sir)
Born ABT 1350, Bentley, Yorkshire, England

Died 10 Sep 1405, Castledermot, Kildare, Ireland
Buried Saint Agatha, Richmond, Yorkshire, England

Notes: 3rd son of Richard, 1° Lord Scrope, was charged with imprisoning the
Earl of Warwick on the Isle of Man. In 1401 he accompanied Thomas of
Lancaster, the King's son, to Ireland as his deputy. It is said that his wife,
having heard the complaints made about him whilst he was Justice of Munster,
Leinster and Uriell, his maladministration of justice, 'except that he would
make a solemn oath on The Bible, that willingly he would wrong no 'Christian
creature' in that land, that truly and duly, see payment made for all
expenses. She finally did consent to go with him. Thomas of Lancaster gives
him a glowing reference in a letter written from Drogheda on 18 th Feb 1401.
Scrope himself wrote at about the same time, asking for the monies owed to
him, if not for 'A Grant of The Isle of Man, forfeited by my brother'. He died
in Ireland in 1408. Millicent, his widow, married Sir John Fastolph (Falstaff
in Shakespeare). Millicent's son Stephen became Fastolph's ward. Fastolph
enjoyed Stephen's inheritance for 51 years before he finally died.

Father Richard SCROPE (1° B. Scrope of Bolton)

Mother Blanche De La POLE (B. Scrope of Bolton)
Married Millicent TIPTOPF (dau. of Robert Tiptoft and Margaret Deincourt) 23
Nov 1385, Castlecomb, Wiltshire, England

Children:
1. Stephen SCROPE
2. Elizabeth SCROPE
--  Tudor Place, http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/SCROPE.htm#Stephen SCROPE1

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Notes for William 1st Earl of Wiltshire LE SCROPE


Birth dates for William Le Scrope and many others of this era are uncertain. 
Most sources repeat the birth date of 1350 commonly used for William Le
Scrope, 1st Earl of Wiltshire, son of Richard Le Scrope, 1st Lord Scrope of
Bolton.  Wikipedia repeats the common date of 1350 for his birth.  Tudor place
reports more cautiously are "Abt 1351."  The birth year of William's brother
is also about 1350.

William was married twice, first to Elizabeth Tiptoft (widow of Philip Lord
Despencer), whose two sisters married two of William's brothers.  After her
death he married Isabel Russell.

Married 1 Elizabeth TIPTOPF (first married Philip Lord Despencer) (dau. of
Robert Tiptoft and Margaret Deincourt)
Married 2 Isabel RUSSELL
--  Tudor Place, http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/SCROPE.htm#William SCROPE (1°
E. Wiltshire)

The Bradley Genealogy provied ore specific deails of his marriage with Isabel
Russell.

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Sir William le SCROPE Earl of Wiltshire [Parents] 1, 2, 3, 4 was born 1350 in
Bolton, North Riding, Yorkshire, England. He died 29 Jul 1399 in Bristol,
Gloucestershire, England. William married Isabel RUSSELL on 1396 in Bolton,
North Riding, Yorkshire, England.

Isabel RUSSELL [Parents] 1, 2, 3, 4 was born 1379 in Dyrham, Gloucestershire,
England. She died 1 May 1437 in Hatfield, West Riding, Yorkshire, England.
Isabel married Sir William le SCROPE Earl of Wiltshire on 1396 in Bolton,
North Riding, Yorkshire, England.
--  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hwbradley/aqwg950.htm
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Wikipedia introduces William Le Scrope, 1st Earl of Wiltshire and King of
Mann.

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William le Scrope, 1st Earl of Wiltshire (1350-1399) was a close supporter of
King Richard II of England.

Life

He was a soldier-adventurer in Lithuania, Italy and France, where he served
with John of Gaunt. Gaunt made him seneschal of Aquitaine in 1383. He then
joined the household of Richard II, as chamberlain. In 1394 he became a Knight
of the Garter.

He was closely involved in Richard's second marriage to Isabella of Valois;
and was Isabelle's guardian at Wallingford Castle, of which he was castellan,
when the King went to Ireland.

He was made Earl of Wiltshire in 1397. He became Lord High Treasurer in 1398.
He became effective head of the government in Richard's absence. He benefitted
from the confiscated estates of Thomas de Beauchamp, 12th Earl of Warwick,
kept for a time under his hand in the Isle of Man, and of John of Gaunt; he
also accumulated control of a number of strategic castles.

He was executed by Henry IV on his successful invasion.

Family

He was the son of Richard le Scrope, 1st Baron Scrope of Bolton. His father
purchased for him the title King of Mann, in 1392.
--  "William le Scrope, 1st Earl of Wiltshire," Wikipedia,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Scrope,_1st_Earl_of_Wiltshire
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William was beheaded when he lost a fight for power with the Duke of Hereford,
Henry Bolingbroke, later King Henry IV.  He was delivered to Henry by the
populace where he has fled and hid, and Henry beheaded him on the spot at
Bristol Castle, Gloucestershire on 29 July 1399.

More details are given by the Tudor Place Genealogy summary:
http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/SCROPE.htm#William SCROPE (1° E. Wiltshire)

Sir William Scrope
Birth 1350, Death Jul. 12, 1399 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Earl of Wiltshire
Father Richard Le Scrope (1327 - 1403)
Sibling Roger Scrope (1348 - 1403)
Burial Non-Cemetery Burial, Executed for treason at Bristol Castle. Head sent
to London to be displayed on London Bridge.
Created by Todd Whitesides Nov 18, 2013
--  Find A Grave Memorial #120491177,
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=120491177
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Notes for Alice LE STRANGE


Dates vary considerably in the genealogies of this period.  The date given for
Alice is the same year as that generally given for her sister Catherine, 1238.
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Notes for Ankaret Baroness Strange of Blackmere LE STRANGE


In this generation the Barony of Lord Strange of Blackmere passed into the
Neville family.  The last Le Strange Baron(ess), Ankaret, married Richard Lord
Talbot.  Their son Gilbert of Irchingfield became the 5th Lord Strange of
Blackmere.

At Talbot's death Ankaret married Thomas Neville, 6th Lord Furnival.  I note
also that Thomas' daughter with his first wife Joan Furnival, Maud Neville, is
designated Baroness Strange of Blackmere.  This was Ankaret's title, which she
passed on to her son Gilbert Talbot.  It appears Maud Neville (Ankaret's
stepdaughter) received this title when Ankaret's first heir, Gilbert Talbot
(son of Richard Talbot from Ankaret's first marriage), died without an heir.

There were many Maud Nevilles.  This Maud also became the Countess of
Shrewsbury, after her marriage to John Talbot, second Earl of Shrewsbury. 
John was Ankaret's son by her first husband Richard Talbot.

Some sources report Ankaret's birth date as 1361.  That would mean she was 14
at the time of her marriage to Richard Talbot, who is reported to have been
born in 1350, and thus 25 at the time of their marriage.  This is possible. 
Sources with this date include the Tudorplace Le Strange genealogy and the
Worldroots Le Strange genealogy.  At least one other source, found in the
World Family Tree collection, gives the date I originally used, the same year
as her first husband, about 1350.  I am changing it in the light of the fairly
reliable sources giving the later date.

The following source gives the family configurations.  Note that this source
styles Thomas Neville as 5th Lord Furnivale, rather than 6th as some other
sources do.

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Ankaret Lestrange was the daughter of John Lestrange, 4th Lord Strange (of
Blackmere) and Mary FitzAlan.2 She married, firstly, Richard Talbot, 4th Lord
Talbot, son of Gilbert Talbot, 3rd Lord Talbot and Petronilla Butler, before
1383.1 She married, secondly, Thomas de Neville, 5th Lord Furnivalle, son of
John de Neville, 3rd Baron Neville and Maud de Percy, before 4 July 1401.1 She
died circa 1413.

From before 1383, her married name became Talbot. From before 4 July 1401, her
married name became de Neville.

Child of Ankaret Lestrange and Thomas de Neville, 5th Lord Furnivalle Joan de
Neville

In a different line. Children of Ankaret Lestrange and Richard Talbot, 4th
Lord Talbot:
Anne Talbot+ d. 16 Jan 1440/41
Richard Talbot Gilbert Talbot, 5th Lord Talbot+ b. 1383, d. 19 Oct 1419
General John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury+ b. c 1390, d. 20 Jul 1453

--  Ankaret and Richard, http://www.thepeerage.com/p929.htm
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The date of marriage is a bit uncertain.  Two sources, connected with the Le
Strange family line, report the marriage to Richard Talbot was on or before 23
August 1383.  A source in the World Family Tree (anonymous compilation of
Genealogy.com) has only the general date of 1375, which is 8 years before the
exact date 23 August 1383 in the other sources.  Even the date 1375 is still
later than the commonly reported date of birth of the first child Mary Talbot
in about 1372.

I would normally prefer a source that gives an exact date.  These other
sources, Tudorplace and Worldroots, have seemed credible and careful. 
However, with a birth date for Ankaret of about 1350, the marriage date in
1383 would mean that Ankaret did not marry until she was 33.  This is very
unusual for that period.  The birth date of around 1361 proposed by other
sources is more reasonable.

The date of 1383 for marriage is also attractive because it is one year before
the birth of the Talbots' first child John.  This also seems expected.

Lady Ankaret LeStrange Neville
Birth unknown
Death May 23, 1413
Spouse Thomas De Neville (1362 - 1406)
Burial St Alkmund Churchyard, Whitchurch, Shropshire Unitary Authority,
Shropshire, England
Created by Todd Whitesides Nov 12, 2013
--  Find A Grave Memorial #120209200,
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=120209200
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Notes for Ann LE STRANGE


The name of Ann commonly has the French variant Anne.

The date of birth given by Tudorplace Le Strange genealogy seems late for
these parents, but the source is of high quality.
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Notes for Ann LE STRANGE


Some sources report that Ann's father Robert Le Strange married an Anne
L'Estrange.  Dates for Anne, however, show her death to have occurred 1497. 
This makes it seem another woman was the mother of Robert's daughter Ann Le
Strange, reported to have been born in 1499.  At least one other source shows
Robert's (only) wife to be Margaret Le Strange, and that she is the mother of
all Robert's children.

Perhaps Robert was married twice, and his first wife was named Ann, and his
second wife Margaret is Ann's mother.  However, there is a discrepancy with an
Ann L'Estrange as the wife of Robert's brother Roger.  Perhaps the reports of
Anne L'Estrange as the wife of Robert are in error, and his wife and mother of
all his children is Margaret.  The report of Margaret L'Estrange as the wife
of Robert do not report Margaret's parents.
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Notes for Anne LE STRANGE


This Anne Le Strange appears to be the same Ann L'Estrange that the Le Strange
Website reports as the wife of brother Robert.  The Tudorplace site says that
Robert's wife is Margaret Le Strange.  I will need to continue looking for
other sources to resolve this discrepancy.
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Notes for Catherine LE STRANGE


Dates vary considerably in the genealogies of this period.  The date given for
Catherine is the same year as that generally given for her sister Alice, 1238.

Most genealogies have no death date for Catherine.  But Robert's second
marriage was about 1280-1281.  The year of birth of Thomas Corbett, first
child of Robert and his second wife Matilda de Arundel, is given as either
October or December 1281.
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Notes for Edmund LE STRANGE


The Le Strange Website and other sources say Edmund was a twin of Hamon who
died young.
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Notes for Elizabeth LE STRANGE


The Le Strange Website descendants information give the date of her marriage,
but oddly fails to say who she married!  No birth or death information is
provided there for Elizabeth, no place names.

A couple of genealogies reprot teh birth year of 1298 for Elizabeth, but the
rpeorted marriage date is in 1304.

Gruffyd ap Madog ap Gruffyd
Birth 23 Nov 1298 in Rhuddallt, Denbighshire, Wales
Death 1365 in Glyndyfrdwy, Wales
Parents:
Madog Crupl Ap Gruffydd
Birth 1255 in Glyndfrdwy, Denbighshire, Wales
Death 11 Nov 1306 in Heleigh Castle, Staffordshire, England
Gwenllian Verch Ithel
Birth 1262 in Flintshire, Wales
Death 1358 in Flintshire, Wales
Spouse Elizabeth LeStrange
Birth 1298 in Oswestry, Shropshire, England
Death 1330 in Fadog, Wales
--  Burgess Family, Ancestry.com,
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/41446027/person/19681927966
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