Dates are a problem in some sources' configurations of this family. Some report the mother of Elizabeth and Eubolo as Maud de Walton, born 1277. But the birth date of both Elizabeth and Eubolo seems firm in 1284 and 1286, respectively. My comparison of sources indicates that the wife of John V Lord Le Strange who was the mother of these children was named Maud d'Eiville, born abt 1251 in Shropshire (possibly Ellesmere). I understand Isolda de Walton (also called in some sources Maud de Walton) to be the wife of a brother of Elizabeth and Eubolo, John, who succeeded his father as Lord Le Strange. Information I have about this Isolda/Maud is that she was born 1277, also in Ellesmere, Shropshire. The Corbett Genealogy http://www.renderplus.com/hartgen/htm/le-strange.htm reports that Eubolo was born about 1286 at Ellesmere, Shropshire, England, reports year of death as 1335, bnut no location. The LeStrange Website reports that Descent, http://www.ls.u-net.com/le_Strange/Seat-H2.htm Spells name Eubulo, reports exact date of death, 8 September 1335.
The source showing Fulk II as a child of Fulk I, Baron Strange, also has Elizabeth as a daughter. The Corbet family has Elizabeth as a daughter and also reports only one son, but it is John.
Various sources and contemporary references spell this name as Fulque, Foulke, Foulque, and other variations.
Guy is styled Guy le Strange of Alverly and Weston, and Knockin. -- Le Strange Web Site
The Le Strange Website, focusing on the history and lineage of the Hunstanton Le Strange family, does not report any ancestors before Roland. In the discussion of origins, they give background of the three primary family lines that coalesced in Roland's line, but mention nothing about the legend of Guy or his father Hoel (Howell). Other genealogies and some histories refer to Guy a real person, attempting to separate him from the romance of legend that developed around him in the stories of his grandson descendant. Guy is said in legend to be from Metz. A 12th century romance portrays him as the son of the Duke of Brittany. (Compare likewise Guy's father Hoel Le Strange, whom some undocumented genealogies have tried to identify with Hoel V, County of Cornouaille in Brittany. These are normally undocumented and from a research verification point of view are not confirmed, and seem fanciful.) Guy's wife Mellette may be a true figure, so I have made her his wife. Sources, however, report his parents as Hoel (Howell) and Hawsie (sometimes found as Hawise). The bulk of the following presentation of the legend comes from the Le Strange Family Genealogy on the Hart Family Web Site, whose Corbet-Le Strange genealogy I have used as one basis for the family lines of this period. The legend bears many of the common characteristics of medieval romances, which were fanciful and mystical or flighty. These were composed for entertainment, but sometimes incorporated what moderns would consider actual "facts" about the characters involved. I have edited the story for grammar and form, and expanded it slightly here to include some cultural and historical clarification, for inclusion in my genealogy. -- OBJ ============================================= The le Strange legend that has been repeated through successive generations can be found in part of an epic tale, the "Romance of Fouke le fitz Warine." This French prose, which was written by an unknown author in traditional trouverian [troubadourian] style of the 13th century, was translated and reproduced in early medieval times for its popularity gained by the declared outlaw. Fulk is otherwise known as Fulk the son of Warine II. Warine is a form of the older Guarine, which came to be Warrenne, then Warren in English usage. Compare the development of the Germanic name Gwillam, as Guillaume in French spelling, and William in English, and Guillermo in Portuguese or Spanish. This latter name has a great variety of spelling throughout its history of usage in virtually all the languages of Europe through the pervasive presence of the Normans in every royal house of Europe, including Russia and Eastern domains. The story of Guy and Fulk is a story set in the 11th century A.D. where it begins with a certain lady, Mellette, who features as the outlaw's grandmother. In her youth, Mellette was united with her husband Guy of Metz, who otherwise was known in France from whence he came, as Guarine or Warine de Metz. The chapter conveys how the le Strange family was founded, prior to the Warines, when Mellette, a beautiful damsel has a jousting tournament arranged for by her wealthy uncle, William Peverel. This was held in the time of William the Conqueror, in 1083 at his Castle Peveril (Peverel) in the Peak of Derbyshire England, and this is where she was expected to find a suitable husband, to which she replied: ------------------------------------ "Sire, no knight is there in all the world that I would take for the sake of riches and the honour of this land but if ever I take such a one he shall be handsome and courteous and accomplished and the most valiant of his order in all Christendom. Of riches I make no account, for truly can I say that he is rich who has that which his heart desires." -- from: Mellette, "The Romance of Fouk le fitz Warine" ------------------------------------ Noblemen eager to win her as their bride -- together with dowry including the attractive white tower of Whitetown, known as Whittington Castle Shropshire -- came from every corner; Scotland, Wales and France. The two most salubrious guests, Owen Prince of Wales, and Eneas, Prince of Scotland, brought 200 knights along. The Duke of Burgundy outnumbered them with a hundred more. Ydromor, Prince of Galloway came with a modest 150 men, but Guy (Guarine de Metz France ), son of John, Duke of Brittany, (Johan duc de la Petite-Bretagne), came with only a hundred, plus his 9 brothers. Ultimately, Guy, with his life spared, victoriously claimed his wife, Mellette, who had already expressed her interest in him by sending over her glove. It continues... "..... Guy remained in England, and conquered, by the force of his sword, many beautiful lands, and so was named Guy le Strange ...." For more information see the "http://www.renderplus.com/hartgen/index.htm" -- Our Folk -- Hart family Web Site =============================================
The Le Strange Website styles Hamo as "Hamo le Strange of Cheswardine, Ercall and Osborne (Knockin)." This name is recorded by various sources as either Hamon or Hamo. It is spelled variously on the same Le Strange Website. It would appear that the odd genealogy that spells the name Harmon has simply misconstrued the name.
The Le Strange Website states that Hamon had no children. It is not clear if he married.
Dates of death given by two sources do not mesh with birth dates of the children. The Le Strange Website reports that Hamon died about 1317, and an anonymous One World Tree reports a date of 1316. But the date of birth of the sons is given in sources as 1325. The Le Strange Website indicates that brothers Edmund and Hamon are twins, but gives no date. The anonymous One World Tree gives the date of 1325. This date seems reasonable, and lacking a date form more credible sources I am using that date for the birth of the twins. I am reporting no date of death for their father Sir Hamon This is one of the common difficulties in trying to sort out these families.
Some sources call him Hamo.
The Tudorplace information on the Le Strange family has Hawyse (Hawise) as the wife of Griffith ap Wennonwen, and mother of Owen ap Griffith de la Pole, Prince of Powys. Others have her as the wife of Owen. Because of the careful detail and explanations I find in the Tudorplace Le Strange genealogy, I am following that on this question. The dates given for the marriage of Griffith ap Wennonwen to Hawyse Le Strange would mean she was married at age 8. This seems strange, but child marriage was a common pattern among the Norman and other nobility in the Middle Ages. Is that what is indicated? Or is the marriage date of 1242 just crazy? Few details are available in sources, so I am following this information from the Tudorplace genealogy, until I find more firm information that provides a better date or additional information to clarify this situation.