Notes for Eubolo LE STRANGE


Dates are a problem in some sources' configurations of this family.  Some
report the mother of Elizabeth and Eubolo as Maud de Walton, born 1277.  But
the birth date of both Elizabeth and Eubolo seems firm in 1284 and 1286,
respectively.

My comparison of sources indicates that the wife of John V Lord Le Strange who
was the mother of these children was named Maud d'Eiville, born abt 1251 in
Shropshire (possibly Ellesmere).

I understand Isolda de Walton (also called in some sources Maud de Walton) to
be the wife of a brother of Elizabeth and Eubolo, John, who succeeded his
father as Lord Le Strange.  Information I have about this Isolda/Maud is that
she was born 1277, also in Ellesmere, Shropshire.

The Corbett Genealogy http://www.renderplus.com/hartgen/htm/le-strange.htm
reports that Eubolo was born about 1286 at Ellesmere, Shropshire, England,
reports year of death as 1335, bnut no location.

The LeStrange Website reports that Descent,
http://www.ls.u-net.com/le_Strange/Seat-H2.htm
Spells name Eubulo, reports exact date of death, 8 September
1335.
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Notes for Fulk LE STRANGE II


The source showing Fulk II as a child of Fulk I, Baron Strange, also has
Elizabeth as a daughter.  The Corbet family has Elizabeth as a daughter and
also reports only one son, but it is John.
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Notes for Fulk I 1st Lord Strange of Blackmere LE STRANGE


Various sources and contemporary references spell this name as Fulque, Foulke,
Foulque, and other variations.
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Notes for Guy LE STRANGE


Guy is styled Guy le Strange of Alverly and Weston, and Knockin. -- Le Strange
Web Site
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Notes for Guy of Metz LE STRANGE


The Le Strange Website, focusing on the history and lineage of the Hunstanton
Le Strange family, does not report any ancestors before Roland.  In the
discussion of origins, they give background of the three primary family lines
that coalesced in Roland's line, but mention nothing about the legend of Guy
or his father Hoel (Howell).  Other genealogies and some histories refer to
Guy a real person, attempting to separate him from the romance of legend that
developed around him in the stories of his grandson descendant.

Guy is said in legend to be from Metz.  A 12th century romance portrays him as
the son of the Duke of Brittany.  (Compare likewise Guy's father Hoel Le
Strange, whom some undocumented genealogies have tried to identify with Hoel
V, County of Cornouaille in Brittany.  These are normally undocumented and
from a research verification point of view are not confirmed, and seem
fanciful.)

Guy's wife Mellette may be a true figure, so I have made her his wife. 
Sources, however, report his parents as Hoel (Howell) and Hawsie (sometimes
found as Hawise).  The bulk of the following presentation of the legend comes
from the Le Strange Family Genealogy on the Hart Family Web Site, whose
Corbet-Le Strange genealogy I have used as one basis for the family lines of
this period.

The legend bears many of the common characteristics of medieval romances,
which were fanciful and mystical or flighty.  These were composed for
entertainment, but sometimes incorporated what moderns would consider actual
"facts" about the characters involved.  I have edited the story for grammar
and form, and expanded it slightly here to include some cultural and
historical clarification, for inclusion in my genealogy.  -- OBJ

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The le Strange legend that has been repeated through successive generations
can be found in part of an epic tale, the "Romance of Fouke le fitz Warine." 
This French prose, which was written by an unknown author in traditional
trouverian [troubadourian] style of the 13th century, was translated and
reproduced in early medieval times for its popularity gained by the declared
outlaw.

Fulk is otherwise known as Fulk the son of Warine II. Warine is a form of the
older Guarine, which came to be Warrenne, then Warren in English usage. 
Compare the development of the Germanic name Gwillam, as Guillaume in French
spelling, and William in English, and Guillermo in Portuguese or Spanish.

This latter name has a great variety of spelling throughout its history of
usage in virtually all the languages of Europe through the pervasive presence
of the Normans in every royal house of Europe, including Russia and Eastern
domains.

The story of Guy and Fulk is a story set in the 11th century A.D. where it
begins with a certain lady, Mellette, who features as the outlaw's
grandmother.  In her youth, Mellette was united with her husband Guy of Metz,
who otherwise was known in France from whence he came, as Guarine or Warine de
Metz.

The chapter conveys how the le Strange family was founded, prior to the
Warines, when Mellette, a beautiful damsel has a jousting tournament arranged
for by her wealthy uncle, William Peverel. This was held in the time of
William the Conqueror, in 1083 at his Castle Peveril (Peverel) in the Peak of
Derbyshire England, and this is where she was expected to find a suitable
husband, to which she replied:

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"Sire, no knight is there in all the world that I would take for the sake of
riches and the honour of this land but if ever I take such a one he shall be
handsome and courteous and accomplished and the most valiant of his order in
all Christendom. Of riches I make no account, for truly can I say that he is
rich who has that which his heart desires."
--  from: Mellette, "The Romance of Fouk le fitz Warine"
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Noblemen eager to win her as their bride -- together with dowry including the
attractive white tower of Whitetown, known as Whittington Castle Shropshire --
came from every corner; Scotland, Wales and France.  The two most salubrious
guests, Owen Prince of Wales, and Eneas, Prince of Scotland, brought 200
knights along.

The Duke of Burgundy outnumbered them with a hundred more. Ydromor, Prince of
Galloway came with a modest 150 men, but Guy (Guarine de Metz France ), son of
John, Duke of Brittany, (Johan duc de la Petite-Bretagne), came with only a
hundred, plus his 9 brothers.

Ultimately, Guy, with his life spared, victoriously claimed his wife,
Mellette, who had already expressed her interest in him by sending over her
glove. It continues... "..... Guy remained in England, and conquered, by the
force of his sword, many beautiful lands, and so was named Guy le Strange
...."
For more information see the "http://www.renderplus.com/hartgen/index.htm"
--  Our Folk -- Hart family Web Site
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Notes for Hamo LE STRANGE


The Le Strange Website styles Hamo as "Hamo le Strange of Cheswardine, Ercall
and Osborne (Knockin)."

This name is recorded by various sources as either Hamon or Hamo.  It is
spelled variously on the same Le Strange Website.  It would appear that the
odd genealogy that spells the name Harmon has simply misconstrued the name.
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Notes for Hamon LE STRANGE


The Le Strange Website states that Hamon had no children.  It is not clear if
he married.
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Notes for Hamon LE STRANGE


Dates of death given by two sources do not mesh with birth dates of the
children. The Le Strange Website reports that Hamon died about 1317, and an
anonymous One World Tree reports a date of 1316.  But the date of birth of the
sons is given in sources as 1325.  The Le Strange Website indicates that
brothers Edmund and Hamon are twins, but gives no date.

The anonymous One World Tree gives the date of 1325.  This date seems
reasonable, and lacking a date form more credible sources I am using that date
for the birth of the twins.  I am reporting no date of death for their father
Sir Hamon  This is one of the common difficulties in trying to sort out these
families.
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Notes for Hamon LE STRANGE


Some sources call him Hamo.
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Notes for Hawyse LE STRANGE


The Tudorplace information on the Le Strange family has Hawyse (Hawise) as the
wife of Griffith ap Wennonwen, and mother of Owen ap Griffith de la Pole,
Prince of Powys.  Others have her as the wife of Owen.  Because of the careful
detail and explanations I find in the Tudorplace Le Strange genealogy, I am
following that on this question.

The dates given for the marriage of Griffith ap Wennonwen to Hawyse Le Strange
would mean she was married at age 8.  This seems strange, but child marriage
was a common pattern among the Norman and other nobility in the Middle Ages. 
Is that what is indicated?  Or is the marriage date of 1242 just crazy?

Few details are available in sources, so I am following this information from
the Tudorplace genealogy, until I find more firm information that provides a
better date or additional information to clarify this situation.
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