Pierre dit Lalime PERTHUIS Pierre dit Lalime PERTHUIS Pierre PERTUIS Angélique CARON Claude DAMISÉ Mini tree diagram

Pierre PERTUIS1,2,3,2,5,4

16911,2,3,4 - after 17151

Life History


Born in Ile De Montreal, Pointe Aux Trembles, Quebec, Canada, New France.1,2,3,4

24th Jan 1712/3

Married Angélique CARON in Québec City, Québec, Canada, New France.2,8

after 1715


2nd Aug 1715

Birth of son Pierre PERTUIS in Montréal, Québec, Canada, New France.5,6,7


  • Dictionnaire généalogique des familles canadiennes (Collection Tanguay), 1608 à 1890 Quebec
    Genealogical Dictionary of Canadian Families (Tanguay Collection), 1608-1890
    Pierre Perthuis
    Enfant (Child)
    Baptism 19 mai 1691 (19 May 1691) Montréal
    Father's Name Pierre Perthuis
    Mother's name Claude Damisé
    Marriage 24 janv. 1713 (24 Jan 1713) Québec (Quebec City)
    Spouse's Name Angélique Caron

    Pierre Perthuis and Angelique Caron
    Marriage 24 Jan 1713 Québec
    Pierre Perthuy son of Pierre Perthuy Merchant land-owner (Farmer Marchand Bourgeois) and Claude Damise [sic] of Notre Dame of Montréal, the parents of this parish
    Angelique [sic] Caron daughter of Vital Caron Merchant Lando-owner of this city and Marguerite Guagnon, the parents of this parish
    --  Quebec, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967, Basilique de Notre-Dame, Québec, pp 376-38, http://bit.ly/11OaOGK

    Some genealogies report that the same Pierre Perthuis married both Angelique Caron and Catherine Maillet (or Malet).  But the compilation of parish church records indicates two different men named Pierre Perthuis married each of these.  The men's birth dates are different in the various records.  Some genealogies reflect this.

    The records report only one child being born to Pierre b 1691 and his wife Angélique Caron, Pierre born 2 August 1715.  There is no record of this father Pierre marrying again in Montréal.

    Perthuis, Pierre
    mar Bouteiller, Angélique b 1686 [dau of André]
    Son Pierre b 16 Feb 1697 at Longueuil, d 18 July 1709 at Montréal

    Where he died is not certain.  He may have moved south like his brother Pierre dit Lalime.  But the may have remained in Montréal.  There are some records related to one or more indivdiuals named Pierre Pertuis/Perthuis who are not clearly identified as to connection with this lineage.

    Another record in the compiled reports says one Pierre Perthuis married a Catherine Malet (also spelled Mallet and Maillet in other records and references).  This Pierre is reported born in 1686, the son of the same Pierre Perthuis who was the father of Pierre who married Angélique Caron.  Are you confused yet?

    Many genealogies report the same Pierre as the husband of both Angélique and Catherine.  But the two different birth dates in the records seem to say these are two different men named Pierre Perthuis.  The format of the record compilation is somewhat confusing, and this may account for the discrepancies found in the varous genealogies.

    From the limited information provided with the generational connections provided in the record compilation, it appears that the mother of both these sons named Pierre was Claude Damizé (1650-1705).

    24 January 1713
    Pierre Perthuis  b 1691 (son of Pierre b 1644 d 16 Apr 1708)
    mar Angélique Caron b 1690, d 25 Aug 1715 at Montréal (dau of Vital)
    son Pierre b 2 Aug 1715

    A detailed genealogy has some good detail on Pierre's parents and siblings.

    PERTHUIS dit LALIME, Pierre (Sylvain PERTHUIS & Mathurine RASSICOT), baptized 1645-02-19 (ptc) or 1645-02-18 (fda) Amboise (Notre-Dame-du-Bout-des-Ponts) (Indre-et-Loire : 370003), France, buried 1708-04-16 Montréal (Qc)
    married 1668-12-10 Montréal (Qc), marriage contract 1668-11-30 (depositary Bénigne Basset dit Deslauriers)
    DAMISÉ, Claude (Étienne & Geneviève PIOCHE), born about 1643 (rec. 1681) or 1650 (sép. 1705) Paris (Saint-Nicolas-du-Chardonnet) (Paris : 750105), France, buried 1705-10-06 Montréal (Qc)
    1) Catherine, born about 1668 (sép. 1736), buried 1736-02-17 Rivière-des-Prairies (Qc), married Pointe-aux-Trembles (Qc) 1686-01-07 Pierre MAGUET
    2) Élisabeth, born about 1675 (sép. 1703), died 1703-04-23, buried 1703-04-23 Montréal (Qc), married Montréal (Qc) 1695-06-20 Claude CARON
    3) Geneviève, married Montréal (Qc) 1701-03-19 Urbain GERVAISE ou GERVAIS, married Lachine (Qc) 1717-04-05 Louis RENAUD
    4) Jeanne, baptized 1673-12-13 Montréal (Qc), died after 1735-11-14 Pointe-aux-Trembles (Qc), married Pointe-aux-Trembles (Qc) 1688-11-22 Nicolas DESROCHES
    5) Marie, born about 1671 (sép. 1766), died 1766-12-23, buried 1766-12-24 Châteauguay (Qc), married Montréal (Qc) 1698-01-24 Vital CARON
    6) Marie Angélique, born about 1685 (sép. 1755), died 1755-04-25, buried 1755-04-26 Montréal (Qc), married Montréal (Qc) 1700-09-28 Louis LEFEBVRE dit DUCHOUQUET
    7) Pierre [also called Lalime], married Québec (Qc) 1713-01-24 Angélique CARON, marriage contract 1716-03-18 (depositary Michel Lepailleur de La Ferté) Catherine MALLET
    --  Présence tourangelle au Canada au XVIIe siècle; Fonds Denis Amyot; PRDH-RAB; Parchemin. courtoisie de zikomo, Généalogie de Cole Brown, Source:  http://www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/001/001117.php

    A discussion on this family in Genealogy.com provides some help understanding the configuration and duplicate names of children.

    One descendant posted some information in 2001 and a genealogist responded in 2007 with some fill-in data on wives of Pierre born 1644.

    2 Pierres, sons of Pierre Perthuis & Claude Damise

    From several different sources I have obtained the list of Pierre and Claude's children.

    Their 10th child was Pierre, b. 16 Apr 1686.
    Their 12th child was Pierre, b. 19 May 1691.

    One of these Pierres died in 1708 in Deerfield, MA. The other married Catherine Maillet in 1713. One of them had a child out of wedlock, Pierre, b. 16 Feb 1709 Longueuil, who died 18 Feb. 1709 Montreal. The mother was Marie Angelique Bouteiller, dau. of Andre & Angelique Chapacou.

    Obviously the one who died in 1708 could not have married Catherine Maillet in 1713 although it is possible he could have sired the child by Marie Angelique Bouteiller.

    My problem is I have records I have seen [that] show both Pierres married to Catherine, although I believe all the records showing a death in 1708 indicate this Pierre was the one b. 1686. I am descended from the one who married Catherine Maillet and would like to know which one that is. Can anyone help?
    --  Ruth Ratliff, Genealogy.com Forums, 07 December 2001, http://genforum.genealogy.com/perthuis/messages/29.html

    Jetté p.903 gives:

    10) Pierre b 1686 d 1708 Deerfield, Mass
    (natural child: mother:Marie-Angélique BOUTEILLER
    Pierre b 1709)

    12) Pierre b 1691
    m 1713/1/24 Angélique CARON (Vital, Marguerite GAGNON)
    (Angélique died on 1715/8/25 in Montréal)
    (they had 1 son  [name not given, reported by several genealogies to be a Pierre also])

    m 1716/3/18 ct LePailleur in Montréal
    Marie-Catherine MALLET(Pierre, Madeleine THUNAY)
    (They had 9 children [one b 1723 named Pierre, called La Genvery, father of Pierre Le Chevalier of Arkansas Post.])

    Pierre PERTHUIS and Claude DAMISE had 12 children.
    See Jetté p. 902
    --  Roch Pouliot, Montreal, Québec, genealogist, Genealogy.com forums, http://genforum.genealogy.com/perthuis/messages/39.html

    Another genealogy reports that the same Pierre Perthuis married both Angélique Caron and Cathernie Maillet, and that Pierre's birth date is reported here as 1691.  Birth and marriage records from the basilica of Notre Dame in Montréal, Québec, however, report Catherine was married in 1716 to Pierre Perthuis born in 1886.  Marriage records report that Pierre born in 1691 married Angélique Caron in 1713.

    Pierre Perthuis
    Birth 1691 in Quebec
    Death 17 Apr 1730 in Kaskaskia, Fayette, Illinois, USA
    Pierre Perthuis Birth 1644, Death 16 Apr 1708 in Montréal, Quebec, Canada
    Claude [Claudia] Damise Birth 6 Oct 1650 in Faubourg St Victor, Paris, Ile-de-France, France, Death 6 Oct 1705 in Montréal, Quebec, Canada
    Marriage to Angelique CARON 24 Jan 1713 Quebec, Canada
    Birth 15 Sep 1690 in Québec, Quebec, Canada
    Death 25 Aug 1715 [8 years before the birth of her son] in Montréal, Quebec, Canada
    Son [among others] Pierre Pertuis dit La Genvery, Birth 11/14/1723, Death Unknown
    Marriage to Marie Catherine Mallet [birth records report she is the mother of Pierre dit la Genvery]
    Birth 27 Oct 1698 in Montréal, Quebec, Canada, Death Unknown
    --  Pertuis Family Tree, http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/10957347/person/-551291584


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