William M FORRESTER Thalia Ann FORRESTER Mary Adelina FORRESTER Harriet J FORRESTER Nancy M FORRESTER Martha Mealle FORRESTER Joseph N FORRESTER Robert Lee SMITH William SMITH James W Raspberry SMITH Carter SMITH John David SMITH Ephran SMITH Martin SMITH Florence A SMITH Harvey SMITH Zechariah A SMITH Enoch SMITH Edward Edgar SMITH Robert Lee SMITH Zenith Elvira BARNES Mini tree diagram

Louisa Amanda FORRESTER1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8

20th Oct 18661,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 - 16th Sep 19401,7

Life History

20th Oct 1866

Born in Georgia.1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8

about 1882

Married Robert Lee SMITH

14th Oct 1883

Birth of son William SMITH in Georgia.9,8

8th Jul 1884

Birth of son James W Raspberry SMITH in Texas.9,10,8,11,3,12

Dec 1886

Birth of son Carter SMITH in Georgia.13,8

May 1889

Birth of son John David SMITH in Fair Mountain, Georgia.8,3,14,15,13,2,5

Oct 1890

Birth of son Ephran SMITH in Georgia.16,8,17

25th Oct 1893

Birth of son Martin SMITH in Georgia.9,8,3

Apr 1895

Birth of son Florence A SMITH in Georgia.13,2,3,8,5

Jan 1897

Birth of son Harvey SMITH in Georgia.5,9,2,3,8,13

Jan 1899

Birth of son Zechariah A SMITH in Talking Rock, Pickens, Georgia.18,3,19,8

5th Jun 1900

Resident 1900 census enumeration with husband Robert Smith in James County, Tennessee.8

22nd Jun 1902

Birth of son Enoch SMITH in Georgia.3,9,13

15th Mar 1905

Birth of son Edward Edgar SMITH in Georgia.9,13,2,3

2nd Jan 1908

Birth of son Robert Lee SMITH in Georgia.13,2

9th Apr 1910

Resident 1910 census enumeration with husband Robert Smith in Pontotoc County, Oklahoma.3

4th Apr 1930

Resident Enumerated in the census with husband Robert Smith in Pontotoc County, Oklahoma.2

21st Apr 1939

Death of Robert Lee SMITH in Brady, Garvin, Oklahoma.1,7

1st Apr 1940

Resident in Stratford, Garvin, Oklahoma, United States.5

16th Sep 1940

Died in Stratford, Garvin, Oklahoma.1,7

after 16th Sep 1940

Buried in Mt Olivet Cemetery, Pauls Valley, Garvin, Oklahoma.7

Notes

  • 1870 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 25 July, PO Jasper, page111 (scan 55), Hse/Fam #863
    Forester William 51 M W Farmer $200 Real Estate $200 Personal born SCarolina [b abt 1839]
    Forester Zenith 43 F W Keeping House born S Carolina [b abt 1827]Cannot read or write
    Forester Louisa 3 F W born Georgia [b abt 1867]

    1880 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia, 12 June, Jerusalem,District 163, page 19B, Hse/Family #165
    Forrester, William W M 61 Farmer SC NC SC Forrester
    Forrester, Zenith  W F 51 Wife Keeping House SC SC SC
    Forrester, Louisa L  W F 15 Dau Work on Farm GA SC SC

    Louisa may be the same daughter known as Amanda or Mandy, who marriedRobert Smith.  Amanda's death certificate says her parents were BillForrester and Zenas Barnes, which appears to be the same Bill andZenith.  But we have accounted for all their children and no Mandy orsimilar occurs in the pertinent census records.

    The daughter matching Louisa in later records is referred to by thenames Mandy, Manda or Amanda.  Amanda married Robert Smith.

    Terri Smith Escamillo and I have worked together to confirm Amanda'sidentity.  Terri has probed it extensively.  We have eliminated otherpossibilities Terri concludes that Louisa is the same as Mandy.  Thisseems to account for the information we have.

    Amanda Forrester married Robert Smith, and they are found in Tennesseein 1900 and in Oklahoma by 19120.  Amanda Forrester Smith died inPauls Valley, Oklahoma, in 1940.  Her death certificate reports thather parents were Bill and Zenis Forrester, seeming to refer to ourWilliam and Zenith.

    Terri discusses Amanda Forrester Smith and her family.

    "Manda Forrester Smith and Robert Smith are my great grandparents andtheir son Martin Lee Arthur Van Buren is my grandfather that I didn'tknow.  Robert and Mart were born in Georgia and my dad Leman Smith wasborn in Henryetta, Oklahoma, but my mother divorced him when I was 9years old.  My dad joined the Navy when he was 17 and was inCalifornia where he met my mom in Cupertino, California and marriedthe same year.  I was born in San Jose and lived most of my life inSanta Clara County until 6 years ago when my husband and I moved toPetaluma in Northern California, but both sides of my family are fromGeorgia, South Carolina, Oklahoma and Missouri."
    --  Terri Escamillo, email to Orville Boyd Jenkins, 28 February 2011

    We have found no single record or reference that contains the both thenames Louisa and Amanda.  Other facts fit pretty well to provided afull-life picture of Louisa Amanda.

    The first record I found under the name Amanda is the 1900 censuswhere she and her husband Robert Smith are living in James County,Tennessee, before they moved to Oklahoma, where they were enumeratedin 1910.

    1900 Federal Census, James County, Tennessee, 5 June, Civil District7, Enumeration District 77, page 3B, Hse #53, Fam #56
    Smith, Robert Head W M  May 1858  42 Married 18 yrs GA GA GA LogDriver Rents
    Smith, Amanda Wife W F Oct 1866  33 Married 18 yrs 13 children/9living GA NC NC
    Smith, William Son W M  Oct 1883  16 Single GA GA GA
    Smith, James A  Son W M  Sept 1885  14 Single TX GA GA
    Smith, Carter Son W M  Dec 1886  13 Single GA GA GA
    Smith, John D  Son W M  May 1889  11 Single GA GA GA
    Smith, Epheham Son W M  Oct 1890  9 Single GA GA GA
    Smith, Mart Son W M  Jan 1893  3 Single GA GA GA
    Smith, Florance A  Dau W M  Apr 1895  5 Single GA GA GA
    Smith, Harvy Son W M  Jan 1897  4 Single GA GA GA
    Smith, Zack Son W M  Jan 1899  1 Single GA GA GA

    James is reported born in Texas.  This means they moved from Georgiato Texas between October 1883 and December 1885.  Then after James'birth, they were not in Texas a whole year, before they moved back toGeorgia, where Carter was born in December 1886. I wonder why theywould make such a major move, then come right back after such a shorttime.

    All the other children were born in Georgia.  Thus they moved intoTennessee about a year or so before this census.  Before long, though,they were back out west.

    1910 Federal Census, Pontotoc County, Oklahoma, 9 April, FrancisTownship, District 256, page 14A, Hse #218, Fam #254
    Smith, Robert Head M W 52 Married 30 years GA GA GA Farming Rents
    Smith, Manda Wife F W 43 Married 30 years 17 children/13 living GA GAGA
    Smith, Berry Son M W 24 Single TX GA GA Farmer
    Smith, David Son M W 19 Single GA GA GA Farm Helper
    Smith, Mart Son M W 17 Single GA GA GA Farm Helper
    Smith, Harve Son M W 14 Single GA GA GA Farm Helper
    Smith, Florence Dau F W 16 Single GA GA GA
    Smith, Zachariah Son M W 13 Single GA GA GA Farm Helper
    Smith, Enoch Son M W 7 Single GA GA GA
    Smith, Eddie Son M W 5 Single GA GA GA
    Smith, Robert Son M W 2 Single GA GA GA

    In age, David here matches John D of 1900.  There is a discrepancy inage and reported birth date in 1900 compared to the age in 1910.Birthdays are not very reliable in the 1900 census.  Family sourcesidentify this child as John David, known as Dave, also called D W forsome reason.  Epheham, whose age reports overlap with Dave in thesereports, is reported with separate details.  Epheham died and wasburied in Ada, while Dave died in Pauls Valley and is buried in MtOlivet Cemetery.

    Berry matches James A because there is only one child born in Texas.All other children were born in Georgia, except Robert, who was bornafter they moved to Oklahoma.  The age of Robert indicates they movedthere after the creation of the State of Oklahoma in December 1907.

    It is not clear from this evidence whether the initial A was an erroror Berry is a nickname.  Berry is often a proper given name, but isalso sometimes a nickname for the popular name Greenberry.  The middleinitial in James' 1920 census record fits with the given name William. But William was listed as well as James in 1900, and two years olderthan James.

    At least one genealogy has James William Raspberry as one child,combining the two children William and James of the 1900 census.  Thisdoes not seem possible, since William and James were enumerated as twoseparate children in 1900, with different ages.

    Some other genealogies do have Berry as William's middle name.  Berrymatches James here.  No further clarification has been found on thenames.  This also matches later censuses where the wife of James isnamed Kizzia (or Kizzie) and her husband is sometimes reported asBerry.

    In the 1920 census, Robert is named Robert B instead of Robert L.This time they are in neighboring Garvin County.  In the 1930 census,they are back in a Pontotoc County locale.

    1920 Federal Census, Garvin County, Oklahoma, 7 February, BradyTownship, District 21, page 2A, West Township Line, Hse #23, Fam #24
    Smith, Robt B Head Rents M W  65 GA GA GA Cotton Farmer
    Smith, Mandy Wife F W  57 GA GA GA Cotton Picker
    Smith, Dave Son M W  29 GA GA GA Farm Laborer
    Smith, Harve V Son M W  20 GA GA GA Farm Laborer
    Smith, Florence Dau F W  21 GA GA GA Farm Laborer
    Smith, Enoch Son M W  17 GA GA GA Farm Laborer
    Smith, Edward Son M W  16 GA GA GA Farm Laborer
    Smith, Robert Son M W  14 GA GA GA Farm Laborer
    - Fam #25 -
    Smith, Charter Head M W  33 GA GA GA Farm Laborer
    Smith, Rosetta Wife F W  22 GA GA GA Farm Laborer
    Smith, Dewey Lee Son M W  2yrs5mos GA GA GA
    Smith, David E Son M W  4mos GA GA GA

    1930 Federal Census, Pontotoc County, Oklahoma, 4 April, MaxwellTownship, District 24, page 2A, Hse/Fam #216
    Smith, Dave Son M W 40 Single GA GA GA Farm Laborer
    Smith, Florence Dau F W 37 Single GA GA GA
    Smith, Harve Son M W 35 Single GA GA GA Farm Laborer
    Smith, Edgar Son M W 26 Single GA GA GA Farm Laborer
    Smith, Robert Jr Son M W 23 Single GA GA GA Farm Laborer
    Smith, Manda Sister F W 66 Single GA GA GA

    Manda's husband Robert Lee died in1939.  In 1940, Dave is enumeratedas the Head of the household, with his widowed mother and two siblingsin the home, and their Aunt Mandy, Robert Lee Smith's sister.

    1940 Federal Census, Garvin County, Oklahoma, 19 April, Stratford,District: 25-22, page 10A, Hse#161, Rent $5
    Smith, Dave W Head M W 51 Single Grade 1 born Georgia Same House in1935 Farmer
    Smith, Florence Sister F W 44 Single Grade 3 born Georgia Same Housein 1935
    Smith, Harve Brother M W 42 Single Grade 3 born Georgia Same House in1935 Farmer
    Smith, Mandia Mother F W 77 Widow Grade 0 born Georgia Same House in1935
    Smith, Mandy Mother F W 78 Single Grade 0 born Alabama Same House in1935

    Amanda Forrester Smith died in Pauls Valley, Oklahoma, in 1940.  Inthe 1940 census, Manda was a widow in the home with several of herchildren, with her son Dave Smith reported as the head of thehousehold.

    Forms of the names of William and Zenith Barnes Forrester are reportedas Amanda's parents, by her son Dave (under the name D W Smith), theinformant on Amanda's death certificate.

    Louisa Amanda Forrester
    Birth 10/20/1866 in Georgia
    Death 9/16/1940 in Stratford, Garvin, Oklahoma
    Parents:
    William M Forrester 1819 - 1894
    Zenith Barnes 1826 - 1907
    Spouse:
    Robert Lee "Bob" Smith
    Birth abt 1852 in Culloden, Monroe, Georgia,
    Death April 21, 1939 in Brady, Garvin, Oklahoma
    --  Smith, http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/30103154/person/12241566604

    This genealogy also has a note stating:
    "Robert is buried in Mount Olivet Cemetery in Pauls Valley, Ok inSection 1 lot 6 block 44 space 1."  No burial memorial has been foundfor either Robert or Amanda on Find a Grave.

    Louisa Amanda Forrester
    Birth 10/20/1866 Georgia
    Death 9/16/1940 Pauls Valley, Garvin, Oklahoma
    Burial 1940 Mt Olivet Cemetery, Pauls Valley, Garvin, Oklahoma,section 1; block 6; lot 44; space
    Parents:
    William M Forrester 1819-1894
    Zenith Barnes 1829-1907
    Spouse Robert Lee "Bob" Smith
    Birth 5/1858 • Culloden, Monroe, Georgia
    Death 4/21/1939 Pauls Valley, Garvin, Oklahoma
    Burial 4/21/1939 Mt Olivet Cemetery, Pauls Valley, Garvin, Oklahoma,section 1; block 6; lot 44; space 1
    --  Phelps Family Tree,http://person.ancestry.com/tree/10946636/person/860061039/facts

Sources

  • 1. Ancestry Trees
    • Smith, http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/30103154/person/12241566604
  • 2. 1930 Federal Census, Pontotoc County, Oklahoma
    • 4 April, Maxwell Township, District 24, page 2A, Hse/Fam #216
  • 3. 1910 Federal Census, Pontotoc County, Oklahoma
    • 9 April, Francis Township, District 256, page 14A, Hse #218, Fam #254
  • 4. 1880 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia
    • 12 June, Jerusalem, District 163, page 19B, Hse/Family #165
  • 5. 1940 Federal Census, Garvin County, Oklahoma
    • 19 April, Stratford, District: 25-22, page 10A, Hse#161, Rent $5
  • 6. 1870 Federal Census, Pickens County, Georgia
    • 25 July, PO Jasper, page 111 (scan 55), Hse/Fam #863
  • 7. Find a Grave Memorial Registry
  • 8. 1900 Federal Census, James County, Tennessee
    • 5 June, Civil District 7, Enumeration District 77, page 3B, Hse #53,
  • 9. Social Security Death Index
  • 10. 1930 Federal Census, Pontotoc County, Oklahoma
    • 29 April, Fitzhugh Township, District 20, page 3A, Hse #41, Fam #42
  • 11. 1940 Federal Census, Pontotoc County, Oklahoma
    • 17 April, Fitzhugh Township, District 62-21, page 5A, Hse #79, Rents
  • 12. 1920 Federal Census, Pontotoc County, Oklahoma
    • 10 February, Ada, District 120, page 8B, Hse #136, Fam #131
  • 13. 1920 Federal Census, Garvin County, Oklahoma
    • 7 February, Brady Township, District 21, page 2A, West Township Line,
  • 14. Gravestone of John David Smith, Mount Olivet Cemetery, Pauls Valley,Oklahoma, Footstone
  • 15. U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
  • 16. 1930 Federal Census, Caddo County, Oklahoma
    • 16 April, South Lathram Township, District 48, page 4B, Hse/Fam #260
  • 17. Ancestry Trees
    • Phelps,
  • 18. 1940 Federal Census, Kern County, California
    • 6 April, Judicial Township 15, District 15-84, page 4A, Hwy 399, Hse
  • 19. Ancestry Trees
    • Private Tree,

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