Pierre dit Lalime PERTHUIS Pierre dit La Genvery PERTUIS Marie Catherine MAILLET Pierre PERTUIS Claude DAMISÉ Mini tree diagram
Pierre dit Lalime PERTHUIS

Pierre dit Lalime PERTHUIS1,2,3

16th Apr 16861,2,3 - 17th Apr 17304

Life History

16th Apr 1686

Born in Ile De Montreal, Pointe Aux Trembles, Quebec, Canada, New France.1,2,3

18th Mar 1715/6

Married Marie Catherine MAILLET in Québec, Canada, New France.6,3

14th Nov 1723

Birth of son Pierre dit La Genvery PERTUIS in Detroit, Michigan, New France.4,4,5

17th Apr 1730

Died in Kaskaskia, Illinois, Louisana, New France.4

Notes

  • [no date]
    Pierre Perthuis  b 1686 (son of Pierre b 1644 d 16 Apr 1708)
    mar Catherine Malet [no details]
    Children:
    Joseph b 4 Sept 1717 Montréal
    Catherine b 1718, mar 27 Jan 1737 to Jean-Baptiste Campeau at Detroit, d 20 Feb 1763
    Madeleine b 20 Jan 1720, mar 19 Mar 1736 to Joseph Roy
    Angélique b 15 Sept 1721
    Pierre Perthuis [called La Genvery] b 14 Nov 1723
    [a related record: Baptism 14 nov. 1723 Détroit same date is reported as date of birth]
    Marguerite b 15 June 1725
    Louise b 15 Mar 1727
    Claire b 3 Nov 1728
    Jeanne b 17 Apr 1730
    Françoise n 1 Jan 1732
    Alexis b 16 Nov 1734
    --  Dictionnaire généalogique des familles canadiennes (Collection Tanguay), 1608 à 1890, Quebec

    Dictionnaire généalogique des familles canadiennes (Collection Tanguay), 1608 à 1890 Quebec
    Pierre Perthuis
    Enfant (Child)
    Baptism 16 avr. 1686 (16 Apr 1686) Pointe-aux-Trembles
    Father's Name Pierre Perthuis
    Mother's name Claude Damisé
    Spouse's Name Catherine Mallet

    One descendant trying to reconstruct her family comments on the conflicts in the records.

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    2 Pierres, sons of Pierre Perthuis & Claude Damise

    From several different sources I have obtained the list of Pierre and Claude's children.

    Their 10th child was Pierre, b. 16 Apr 1686.
    Their 12th child was Pierre, b. 19 May 1691.

    One of these Pierres died in 1708 in Deerfield, MA. The other married Catherine Maillet in 1713. One of them had a child out of wedlock, Pierre, b. 16 Feb 1709 Longueuil, who died 18 Feb. 1709 Montreal. The mother was Marie Angelique Bouteiller, dau. of Andre & Angelique Chapacou.

    Obviously the one who died in 1708 could not have married Catherine Maillet in 1713 although it is possible he could have sired the child by Marie Angelique Bouteiller.

    My problem is I have records I have seen show both Pierres married to Catherine, although I believe all the records showing a death in 1708 indicate this Pierre was the one b. 1686. I am descended from the one who married Catherine Maillet and would like to know which one that is. Can anyone help?
    --  Ruth Ratliff, Genealogy.com Forums, 07 December 2001, http://genforum.genealogy.com/perthuis/messages/29.html
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    Another genealogist replied with some comment from a record set, but records also conflict with the details here.

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    Jetté p.903 gives:

    10) Pierre b 1686 d 1708 Deerfield, Mass
    (natural child: mother:Marie-Angélique BOUTEILLER
    Pierre b 1709)

    12) Pierre b 1691 [no death information]
    m 1713/1/24 Angélique CARON (Vital, Marguerite GAGNON)
    (Angélique died on 1715/8/25 in Montréal)
    (they had 1 son  [name not given, reported by several genealogies to be a Pierre also])

    m 1716/3/18 ct LePailleur in Montréal
    Marie-Catherine MALLET(Pierre, Madeleine THUNAY)
    (They had 9 children [one b 1723 named Pierre, called La Genvery, father of Pierre Le Chevalier of Arkansas Post.])

    Pierre PERTHUIS and Claude DAMISE had 12 children.
    See Jetté p. 902
    --  Roch Pouliot, Montreal, Québec, genealogist, Genealogy.com forums, http://genforum.genealogy.com/perthuis/messages/39.html
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    Of the two brothers named Pierre, the younger one born in 1691 married Angélique Caron.

    U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
    Pierre Perthuis
    Birth 1691 Quebec]
    Spouse Name Angelique Caron, Marriage 1713

    Collections have sometimes confused the two brothers, treating them as one brother with one or the other birthday, or confusing the wives of the two brothers.  The following one has the correct birthday for the elder brother Pierre but reports he was the one who married Angélique Caron.  It seems both were born in Pointe Aux Trembles, Québec.

    Family Data Collection - Individual Records
    Pierre Perthuis [Peter Perthuis]
    Spouse Angelique Caron
    Parents Pierre Perthuis, Claudia (Claude) Damise
    Birth 16 Apr 1686 Ile De Montreal, Pointe Aux Trembles, Quebec [cf date above 1691]

    "Pointe-aux-Trembles was a municipality, founded in 1674, that was annexed by Montreal, Quebec, Canada, in 1982. This was the last city to be merged into Montreal until the 2002 municipal reorganization."
    --  "Pointe-aux-Trembles," Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointe-aux-Trembles

    There were several individuals in this lineage named Pierre.  Pierre dit la Genvery was one of two sons named Pierre, one with each wife of his father Pierre dit Lalime (Jr).  Angelique Caron's son Pierre was born in 1715.  Angelique died soon after.  Pierre who came to be called La Genvery was born in 1723, the son of Catherine Maillet and Pierre Pertuis dit Lalime.  A son or grandson of one of these appears to be the Louis Pertuis for whom we find the marriage record at Arkansas Post in 1793.  In that marriage record, Louis' parents are reported as the deceased Pierre Perthuis and Jeanne Francoeur.

    U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
    Pierre Perthuis
    Birth Quebec
    Birth Year 1686 [cf date above 1691, there were two Pierre sons and this record has mixed info]
    Spouse Name Catherine Mallet [2nd wife of the Pierre born in1591]
    [No marriage year reported; per genealogy]

    [no date]
    Pierre Perthuis  b 1686 (son of Pierre b 1644 d 16 Apr 1708)
    mar Catherine Malet [no details]
    Children:
    Joseph b 4 Sept 1717 Montréal
    Catherine b 1718, mar 27 Jan 1737 to Jean-Baptiste Campeau at Detroit, d 20 Feb 1763
    Madeleine b 20 Jan 1720, mar 19 Mar 1736 to Joseph Roy
    Angélique b 15 Sept 1721
    Pierre Perthuis [called La Genvery] b 14 Nov 1723
    [a related record: Baptism 14 nov. 1723 Détroit same date is reported as date of birth]
    Marguerite b 15 June 1725
    Louise b 15 Mar 1727
    Claire b 3 Nov 1728
    Jeanne b 17 Apr 1730
    Françoise n 1 Jan 1732
    Alexis b 16 Nov 1734
    --  Dictionnaire généalogique des familles canadiennes (Collection Tanguay), 1608 à 1890, Quebec

    Pierre's son Peter, or Pierre, who came to be called La Genvery, is reported to have been born in Detroit.  The family moved on to Kaskasia, Illinois, where Pierre Lalime died.  His son La Genvery moved on to Arkansas Post on the White River.  The following genealogy, however, reports the Pierre born in 1691 as his father.

    Peter Perthuis
    Birth 14 Nov 1723 in  Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, Death Unknown
    Parents:
    Pierre Perthuis 1691 - 1785
    Catherine Mallet 1698 - 1734
    --  Barbara Gray, http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/41103826/person/20013215321

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