John Lord of Arundel FITZALAN Eleanor FITZALAN Edmund 8th Lord of Arundel FITZALAN Margaret FITZALAN Alisona DE SALUZZA Isabella MORTIMER Mini tree diagram

Richard Lord Of Arundel FITZALAN1,2

3rd Feb 12671,2 - 9th Mar 13021,2

Life History

3rd Feb 1267

Born.1,2

1284

Birth of daughter Eleanor FITZALAN.3

about 1284

Married Alisona DE SALUZZA in Marlborough, Sussex, England.2

1st May 1285

Birth of son Edmund 8th Lord of Arundel FITZALAN in Arundel, West Sussex, England.4

25th Sep 1292

Death of Alisona DE SALUZZA.2

1302

Birth of daughter Margaret FITZALAN in Arundel, Sussex, England.5

9th Mar 1302

Died.1,2

Notes

  • I find a difference among the various sources, at every level of credibility, in the numbering of the Lords of Arundel.  Some sources, like Wikipedia, style this John as the 8th Lord, while other credible sources style him the 7th, and on down the line with the different numbering.  I have not found how to resolve the conflict.  I have not found any sources that acknowledges the difference.

    From the historical information I can glean about the establishment of the Barony, I think some have confused the Barony and the Earldom.  It seems there was a popular reference to the early Lord barons of Arundel as Earls, when in fact the earldom had not yet been created.  In other sources the Earldom begins earlier than the Barony.  Some mention the Barony and others number only by the Earldom.

    See "Richard FitzAlan, 8th Earl of Arundel," Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_FitzAlan,_8th_Earl_of_Arundel

    One source presents a good sumamry, using styling Richard, son of John (and father of Edmund) of 8th Earl of Arundel

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    Richard Fitzalan, 8th Earl of Arundel

    Son of  John Fitzalan, 7th Earl of Arundel and Isabel de Mortimer,  father of Edmund Fitzalan and husband of Alisia de Saluzzo

    Richard was born in 1267, probably on 3 February. His father died when he was five years old, and his estates were wasted by his grandmother Maud, and her second husband, Richard d'Amundeville. He was himself, however, under the wardship of his grandfather Mortimer, although several custodians, among whom was his mother, successively held his castle at Arundel. Before 1285 Fitzalan married Alasia or Alice de Saluza the daughter of Thomas, Marquess of Saluzzo in Piedmont, an alliance which is thought to point to a lengthened sojourn in Italy. One chronicler to remarked that the Marquess of Saluzzo was descended from ‘the impious Lombards’.

    Their children were:
    Edmund Fitzalan, 9th Earl of Arundel
    Eleanor Fitzalan, married Henry de Percy, 1st Baron Percy
    Alice Fitzalan, married Stephen de Segrave, 3rd Lord Segrave
    Margaret Fitzalan, married William le Botiller (or Butler) of Wem
    Richard died on 9th March 1301/02

    In 1287 Fitzalan received his first writ of summons against the rebel Rhys ap Maredudd, and was enjoined to reside on his Shropshire estates until the revolt was put down. He is there described as Richard Fitzalan, but in January 1292 he is styled Earl of Arundel for the first time, and it was as Earl of Arundel that he was regularly styled thereafter. In 1292 his zeal to join the king's forces was the excuse for a humiliating submission to Gilbert de St Leofard, Bishop of Chichester, after a quarrel about his right of hunting in Houghton Forest.

    In 1294 he was appointed to command the forces sent to relieve Bere Castle, in Meirionydd, which was threatened by the Welsh insurgent Madog. In 1295 he was active in leading the baronial opposition to Edward I's demands for paid military service in Gascony. However, in 1297 having laid aside his opposition, he agreed to serve in the duchy. In 1298, 1299, and 1300 he held command in Scotland, and in the latter year appeared, a ‘beau chevalier et bien amé’ and ‘richement armé’, at the siege of Caerlaverock.

    His last attendance in parliament was in 1301 at Lincoln, where he was one of the signatories of the famous letter to the Pope backing Edward I's claim to Scotland. His last military summons was to Carlisle for 24th June 1301. He died on 9th March 1302 and was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire.
    --  Gaskell Family, http://www.gaskellfamily.com/RichardFitzalan1266.htm
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Sources

  • 1. World Family Tree Vol. 4
    • Pedigree #123
  • 2. World Family Tree Vol. 4
    • Pedigree #3168
  • 3. Wikipedia
    • "Eleanor FitzAlan," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_FitzAlan
  • 4. Le Strange Blackmere -- Worldroots
    • http://worldroots.com/cgi-bin/gasteldb?I10564
  • 5. Ancestry Trees
    • Bundy, http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/1471533/person/-1936590107

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