Henry GREEN1,2

also known as John Henry GREEN3

also known as Henry GREENE

17701,2 - before 1850

Life History

1770	Born in South Carolina.1,2
1807	Birth of daughter Mary GREEN in Pendleton Distrtict, South Carolina.4,5,6
1807	Married Alley Caroline SAXON.1
1810	Birth of son Saxon GREEN in Pendleton Distrtict, South Carolina.7,8,9
1812	Birth of son Jeptha GREEN in South Carolina.10,11
about 1819	Birth of son Ambrose GREEN in Pendleton Distrtict, South Carolina.12,13,14
1826	Birth of daughter Matilda GREEN in South Carolina.15,16,17,18,19
1828	Birth of daughter Elizabeth GREEN in Georgia.20,6,21
1832	Birth of daughter Nelly GREEN in Georgia.21,22
1833	Birth of son Jeremiah GREEN in Georgia.23,24
before 1850	Died in Cherokee County, Alabama

Notes

Most source say Henry was born about 1770. A source for most of this family gives a birth date of 1797 for Henry. This might be the child of another member of this Green family.

Other sources give a birth date of 1756 and 1770 for the same Henry Green. But note that his supposed mother, Lucretia, was only born in 1855! I am thinking this is related to a conflation of two or perhaps three generations, with two men named Meshack, and perhaps two or more sons named Henry.

Enumerated next door to his brother Thomas and near a Mary Green, age 26 or under, but the oldest in her hosuehold, who is likely Thomas and Henry's sister. No birth date is found in records for Mary, the youngest child in Meshack and Lucretia Greene's family. This census would place her birth about 1784 or 1785.

1820 Federal Census, Pendleton District, South Carolina, Enumeration Date 7 August 1820 (no date on page), p 37
Henry Greene
Free White Persons
- Males - Under 10: 2
- Males - 10 thru 16: 2
- Males - 26 thru 44: 1
- Females - Under 10: 2
- Females - 10 thru 26: 1
- Females - 26 thru 44: 1 Alley Caroline
Foreigners not Naturalized: 3
Total Free White Persons: 9
No Slaves, Colored

In this census, which matches place and family members for Henry and Alley, both Henrya and his wife are reproted as 45 or under. That would mean they were born in 1780 or later. Sources usually place Henry's birth date in 1770.

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Henry GREEN
Birth ABT 1770 in SC or 1776
Death AFT 1840 in Cherokee Co, Ala
Full blood Cherokee Indian
Father Meshack GREEN b 1720
Mother Lucretia FRANKLIN b ABT 1755

Marriage 1 Caroline SAXON
Children:
Mary GREEN b 1807
Saxon GREEN b ABT 1810 in Pendleton Dist, SC
Jeptha GREEN b: 1812 in SC
Ambrose GREEN b ABT 1819 in Pendleton Dist, SC

Marriage 2 Alley SAXON b: ABT 1787 in NC, Married: ABT 1807
Children:
Matilda GREEN b ABT 1826 in N. C.
Elizabeth 'Betsy' GREEN b ABT 1828
Nelly GREEN b ABT 1832
Jeremiah GREEN b ABT 1833
-- Jess Headley, http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2716375&id=I11030
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The two wives Caroline and Alley (with the same maiden name, you will note) might represent two different families of two different Henry Greens. It could be a father and son -- birth dates of children would match with the family of Henry and Caroline Saxon being the parent family and Henry who married Alley Saxon as the son.

After continuing to analyze the ages, brith dates and other family factors, I began to wonder if the reported wives Caroline and Alley were the same person. If Alley was the second wife, she was in her 40s before she started bearing children. It seems more likely that a younger woman continued bearing children into her mid to late 40s.

Birth dates given for children of Henry and Alley Saxon are in the 1800s-1830s. This is late if not impossible for a person born in 1756 (as some sources report, making her 70 years old at the birth of the first known child!), possible for someone born in 1770, but more likely for a person born in 1797. But note Headley's dates given here. He has no dates of birth,d eath or marriage for Caroline Saxon (reported first wife). Marriage to Alley Saxon is reported as abt 1807 and birth of Carline's first child is also reported as abt 1807! Allowing for a year or more play on the estimated dates, this seems to indicate that Caroline and Alley were the same person.

After finding some censuses, the details were clearer. In the 1850 census, Alley is apparently a widow, with Henry missing from the enumeration, and what appears to be three daughters in her household. But this means the report that Henry died in 1869 would be wrong. Maybe he died in 1849. Alley is 65 years old. At this age, she was born in about 1785, in the range reported by Headley in the genealogy above.

1850 Federal Census, Cherokee County, Alabama, 11 July, District 27, page ?, Hse/Fam #858
Alley Green 63 F No Occupation $No Real Estate Value b SC (b abt 1787)
Polly Green 42 F b SC (b abt 1808)
Betsy Green 22 F b Georgia (b abt 1828)
Nelly Green 7 F b Georgia (b abt 1843)

Sources

1. Ancestry Trees
- Jess Headley, http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2716375&id=I11030
2. 1820 Federal Census, Pendleton District, South Carolina
- 7 August 1820 7 (no date on page), p 37
3. Glenda Pool, William Green Genealogy
- Name: private, received through Green-Bearden family channels;
4. 1850 Federal Census, Cherokee County, Alabama
- 1 July, District 21, page ?, Hse/Fam #158
5. Ancestry Trees
- Jess Headley, http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2821718&id=I26816
6. 1860 Federal Census, Cherokee County, Alabama
- 15 July, District 2, PO Center, page 70, Hse/Fam #496
7. 1850 Federal Census, Cherokee County, Alabama
- 11 July, District 27, page ?, Hse/Fam #857
8. Ancestry Trees
- Jess Headley, http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2821718&id=I26665
9. 1860 Federal Census, Cherokee County, Alabama
- 11 July, District 2, PO Centre, page 563, Hse/Fam #453
10. 1850 Federal Census, Cherokee County, Alabama
- 11 July, District 27, page ?, Hse/Fam #850
11. Ancestry Trees
- Jess Headley, http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2821718&id=I26685
12. Ancestry Trees
- Jess Headley, http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2821718&id=I26666
13. 1850 Federal Census, DeKalb County, Alabama
- 17 December, Division 25, p 737 (scan 368), Hse/Fam #581
14. 1840 Alabama State Census, Cherokee County
- page 50
15. 1880 Federal Census, Polk County, Georgia
- 9 June, Hampton Township, District 166, page 19, HseFam #228
16. Ancestry Trees
17. 1870 Federal Census, Floyd County, Georgia
- 10 August, Subdivision 141, PO Rome, page 83, Hse #596, Fam #583
18. 1850 Federal Census, Cherokee County, Alabama
- 11 January, District 27, page 29, Hse/Fam #849
19. 1860 Federal Census, Cherokee County, Alabama
- 7 June, District 2, PO Centre, page (scan #54), Hse/Fam #388
20. Ancestry Trees
- Jess Headley, http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2716375&id=I26668
21. 1850 Federal Census, Cherokee County, Alabama
- 11 July, District 27, page ?, Hse/Fam #858
22. Ancestry Trees
- Jess Headley, http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2716375&id=I26669
23. Ancestry Trees
- Jess Headley, http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2716375&id=I26670
24. 1860 Federal Census, Cherokee County, Alabama
- 7 June, District 2, PO Centre, page 55-56, Hse/Fam #398