Meshack W GREEN Henry GREEN Elizabeth GREEN Thomas Ross GREEN Mary Ann GREEN Daniel John GREEN John GREEN Francy GREEN Mini tree diagram

Lucretia FRANKLIN2,3,6

also known as CREASY4

also known as CRESSA5

also known as CREORY5

17501,2,3 - after 18003,2

Life History

1750

Born in Pendleton District, South Carolina.1,2,3

1770

Birth of son Henry GREEN in South Carolina.3

about 1770

Married Meshack W GREEN in South Carolina.6,6

1774

Birth of daughter Elizabeth GREEN.2

about 1775

Birth of daughter Mary Ann GREEN in North Carolina.8,9

1775

Birth of son Thomas Ross GREEN in North Carolina.2,7,6

about 1781

Birth of son Daniel John GREEN in South Carolina.10,11,12,13,14,15

1784

Birth of son John GREEN in Rocky River, Pendleton, South Carolina.16,3

about 1785

Birth of daughter Francy GREEN in South Carolina.15

24th Jan 1799

Death of Meshack W GREEN in Pendleton District, South Carolina.2,17

after 1800

Died in Pendleton District, South Carolina.3,2

Notes

  • The One World Tree (requires Ancestry.com subscription) representsseveral genealogies with various information on Lucretia and herfamily.
    --  http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/person.aspx?pid=26541410

    One Ancestry Trees, compiled by Hess Headley, reports on the parentsof John Green.

    John Green b  1784
    Father Meshack GREEN b: 1720
    Mother Lucretia FRANKLIN b: ABT 1755
    --  Hess Headley,http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2716375&id=I26870

    Different sources associate Lucretia's birth with either GuilfordCounty, North Carolina, or Pendleton/Anderson County, South Carolina.Anderson County was one of the counties formed out of the old, largerPendleton District, but not until 1826. Pendleton District woiuld bethe place of birth, as well as the place of death.

    I found a reference to a Lucretia Franklin born in 1750 in theAmerican Genealogical-Biographical Index that is close to the otherreports of Lucretia's birth date.  But this appears to come from asource in Boston.  This might indicate that Lucretia, or her family,originally came from Boston.  The birth place is not given in thisinformation.  This source reports other Franklins as born in SouthCarolina.

    American Genealogical-Biographical Index (AGBI)
    Volume 58, Page 46
    Name:  Lucretia Franklin
    Birth Date  1750
    Reference:  Genealogical Column of the " Boston Transcript" 1906-1941.(The greatest single source of material for genealogical data for theN.E. area and for the period 1600-1800. Completely indexed in theIndex): 10 Dec 1924, 2492; 13 Apr 1925, 2900

    In the will of Meshack W Green, written 19 March 1798 and probated 24January 1799, the transcription spells his wife's name as Creory.This could be a misreading of the name (nickname) Creasy on thehandwritten marriage certificate.  No marriage date is given there,but birth places of the two are Meshack SC and Creasy (with no lastname) NC.  This marriage certificate also gives a nickname oralternate name for Creory as Cressa.  These are all obvious nicknameshort forms of Lucretia.

    Various sources have quite varying dates of birth for LucretiaFranklin, wife of Meshack Green.  Ranges vary from 1706-1775! Thoughthe name is the same, the information obviously represents two orthree generations of persons.  Some sources indicate Creasy wasCherokee or part Cherokee.  Details are hard to get.  Substantialreference is also found to the claim that Meshack Green was Cherokeeor part Cherokee.  Green is a big name among Eastern Cherokees, I amtold.  There is indication of some connection to the Gardner Greenline in Indiana.

    A descendant, Sheri Horton, contributed these family comments:
    "Regarding Meshack Greene m Creasy (Franklin ?) Daughter Nancy AnneGreene married Jonathan Horton son of Abraham and Martha BrisselsHorton.  Jonathan of Quaker faith was excommunicated from the churchfor marrying out of the faith leading me to believe that mygggggrandmother Nancy Anne Greene was of Cherokee descent.  Jonathanand Nancy's son John married Susan Grider and the family moved toWashington Co Mo.  John, a soldier in war of 1812, had a land grant.The family remains in the Washington and surrounding counties."
    --  Sheri Horton, email to Orville Boyd Jenkins, 19 October 2010

    Sheri continued working along various lines for more information aboutthe Cherokee connection.  In May 2014, I got a note from Shericelebrating her discovery of finding documentary evidence of Meshackand his wife being fullblood Cherokee.

    "I just got my card from the Northern Cherokee Nation for proving JohnHorton, wife Nancy Anne Green daughter of Meshack Green(e) . I foundtherm on the Emmigration rolls of 1817-1835 That Meshack, Creasy, andNancy Anne were full Cherokee!  Happy Happy Happy Dance !!!!!  Theyare recognised by the state of Missouri and are working on Federalrecognition."
    --  Sheri Horton, Ancestry Message to Orville Boyd Jenkins, 10 May2014

    Thanks to Keith Henderson of Alabama for finding Meshack's will.  Hisinformation come to me from a distant cousin, Glenda Pool, throughanother cousin Butch Mixon, both working on this and related familylines.

    MISHACH GREEN's WILL
    Wife Creasy Green
    Sons Thomas Green, Daniel Green, Henry Green, Joney Green, John Green
    Daughters Nancy Green
    Other Heirs John Caldwell [Cadwell], Elizabeth Smith, Issac Horton
    Land Location  waters of Coxes' Creek
    Executors wife Creasy Green, son Thomas Green
    Witnesses George Anderson, Lemiel Thomason, Moley Anderson
    Date 19 Mar. 1798. Probate: 24 Jan. 1799
    Recorded 24 Jan. 1799, Bk.C p. 151, Roll 242
    Anderson County, South Carolina

    A A Smith adds some detail and corrects the transcription of JohCadwell's name from her copy of the original handwritten will.

    "Meshack Green's will:  Meshack Green gave land to John Cadwell, notCaldwell in Pend. Dist. SC. My John Cadwell was living there in 1800close to Creasy Green. John and his wife, Mary, moved to Christian Co.KY in 1806 (tax list). John and Mary had children: William, b. 1790NC, Daniel, b. 1794 NC, Moses, b. 1796 NC, John G., b. 1800 SC, Nancy,b. 1802 SC, Chloe, b. 1804 SC, Sally, b. 1806, Jane, b. 1808. Theirdaughter, Nancy Cadwell, married John Kesterson in Christian Co. KY in1819. They had a son, Harvey W. Kesterson, who married CharlotteCasteel in Pike Co. IL. They were living in the Cherokee Nation in1860. We believe there was indian blood in both the Cadwell andKesterson families. Kestersons were from Northumberland Co. VA toFauquier Co. VA to Green Co. TN to Christian/Caldwell Co. KY to PikeCo. IL. I just wonder if Mary was a Green (John Cadwell's wife)."
    --  A A Smith ( aasmith589), Comment on Ancestry.com, 4 Jul 2014

    Dates provided by Glenda Pool and some other genealogies are too lateto account for the reported birth dates of some of the children.There is a great discrepancy in reported dates of birth and marriagefor Meshack and Lucretia Green.  I have rationalized and adjusted thedates showing in my genealogy to some extent, based on analysis of theconflicting sources I have found.

    None of these sources have parents for either Meshack or Lucretia.Some of these state that one or both of them are full-blood Cherokees. One source states that one of their sons is a full-blood Cherokee(but lacks full information on all the children), which would meanthey both had to be full-blood.

    But few of these genealogies provide full sourcing information, whichmakes them generally unreliable.  The internal consistency and amountof total detail then becomes a major factor in determiningpossibilities.  Why can't people tell you where they get theirinformation?

Sources

  • 1. American Genealogical-Biographical Index (AGBI)
  • 2. Glenda Pool, William Green Genealogy
    • Name: private, received through Green-Bearden family channels;
  • 3. Ancestry Trees
    • Jess Headley,
  • 4. Will of Meshack W Green
  • 5. Various Sources
  • 6. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
  • 7. Ancestry Trees
    • http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm-cgi?op=GET&db=*v133t0575&id=I1176
  • 8. Barbara Bell, email to Orville Boyd Jenkins, 23 August 2007
  • 9. 1850 Federal Census, Gwinnett County, Georgia
    • 25 September, Sugar Hill District, page 388, Hse/Fam #935
  • 10. World Family Tree Vol. 4
    • Pedigree #1286
  • 11. 1840 Federal Census, Hall County, Georgia
    • District #507, page 65
  • 12. 1830 Federal Census, Hall County, Georgia
    • page 125
  • 13. Ancestry Trees
    • Shaking the Tree,
  • 14. Ancestry Trees
    • Richard Bates,
  • 15. 1850 Federal Census, Hall County, Georgia
    • 21 August, page 707 (scan page 353), Hse/Fam #84
  • 16. Ancestry Trees
    • Rosenbaum/Driscoll,
  • 17. World Family Tree Vol. 13
    • Pedigree #3163

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